Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-02-2012, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Guntrain11
Live with what the delay that is in padres post? H&LL NO! I feel like the guy in the commercial. It's my money and I want it now!
I do find it interesting that our (apparent) DALPA FPL crowd is out in force on this right now.
Underboob please...
04-02-2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is what I'm stating.
What is going on at PNCL is a piece of the puzzle which when fully assembled is a realignment of Delta's narrow body jet flying.
What is going on at PNCL is a piece of the puzzle which when fully assembled is a realignment of Delta's narrow body jet flying.
04-02-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
NMB?There must be something else brewing out there.
Exactly Bill. We know the company wants something now, and we can guess that with the AMR bankruptcy, there will be a second step. Maybe this deal is just the first of a multiple step set of deals, with each one returning something to the Delta pilot group.
So, take the risk with step one, or does sitting on the sidelines for step one mean we do not participate in step two?
04-02-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by padre2992
Exactly Bill. We know the company wants something now, and we can guess that with the AMR bankruptcy, there will be a second step. Maybe this deal is just the first of a multiple step set of deals, with each one returning something to the Delta pilot group.
So, take the risk with step one, or does sitting on the sidelines for step one mean we do not participate in step two?
So, take the risk with step one, or does sitting on the sidelines for step one mean we do not participate in step two?
04-02-2012, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by padre2992
Carl, LEC Reps just vote to pass the TA on to the pilots. The pilots are the ones that "ratify".
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He knows that. he has an agenda he has to front...
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04-02-2012, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Pinnacle's bankruptcy, which was obviously coordinated with Delta management, appears intended to release nearly the exact number of CRJ900's management was looking for to renegotiate other DCI contracts. These usually go 2 to 1. So, the 16 CRj900 from ATL will likely go to ExpressJet... and like that the "opportunity" touted by ALPA may have just been significantly diminished. Not sure a scope sale is needed (or has great value) any more.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Clearly Delta didn't just discover yesterday that it would take $73M DIP financing to secure the Pinnacle's outstanding financial obligations towards Delta.
I sure hope you are right but historically that hasn't been the case. On the other hand, I do believe selling scope to finance pay rates is a non-starter for all...
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04-02-2012, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Actually, historically, chicks dig the fluff driver. We keep it up longer than the 88/90 ...blah...blah...
04-02-2012, 06:26 PM
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I still think Alaska is in play. We see that Delta plays its hand out over years\months and it seems we've been positioning our network to not compete on routes much like I hear the NWA and Delta systems were done before the merger. Heck RA is crafty enough I think to do double and grab Hawiian at the sme time.
04-02-2012, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Oh man Carl!! Tell me you are not a Fixed news fan?
I guess I just lost a bud.
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04-02-2012, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The myths about SW get better and better. The minimums at SW are nice. A 3 day trip pays 16 hours and 50 minutes minimum which is 19.5 trips. Their system makes it simple and easy to schedule those days so credit is not found on many trips. The average pilot flies 105 trips a month working 14 to 15 days or so. The average line is around 90 TRP each month and works around 12.5 days before pickups to get to 105. The average SW pilot works around 12 days a month after sick, reserve, mil leave and vacation. The average average Delta pilot works less after those same things are factored in. I don't remember exactly the trip pay however its around 185 per trip at SW. Hourly is around 212 per hour however different sources use different conversions. 212 is close. There contract is up soon like ours.
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