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Old 04-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin View Post
So all that matters is the number of reserves??? How bout all the people that prefer quality of life and don't chase the almighty dollar?
What do you mean? If people are trying to get flying in other bases, they're most definitely chasing the dollar.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:17 PM
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You wanna fly outta my base, bid my base. You call it seniority jumping "crap", I disagree. Also, is the little fact that when this is done, the company will figure that they don't need as many reserves, so that will eventually cost jobs... all so you can get that trip that your seniority won't hold at YOUR base....
As an example, if you could out of base WS and be just as high on the ladder as an in-base WS, then I could live in ATL and effectively be a ATL 73N B line holder even though I can barely hold it or even get in to the category with all of these MD's lately.

By bidding NYC 73N B, where I can hold a line, I could do a min line and then drop my trips and then WS out of ATL as much as possible.

Now for every trip I take it's one less trip that would've gone to a reserve because with my seniority I'd be the most junior eligible White Slipper and a reserve would've been next.

So by doing this I could help inadvertently shrink a base and make it that much more senior. And if my trips go on a swap with friends board, someone could make some coin and thereby reduce how many people are required in NYC.

Right?

Or I could live in CMH and pick up trips in CVG, NYC, ATL and someday DTW. And if I can do it, anyone can do it.

So I'm with Tsquare. But not for long, if his Vol's run off to pick up Petrino.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:20 PM
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WOW!! I remember being blown away like this when he was before congress right after 9/11.

I thought his presentation sorta wondered a bit.........what happens when you're crazy smart with so much info rattling around in your brain

Now, if he comes across with a great contract too...........

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Brilliant...he takes complicated issues and breaks them down to simple terms, i.e., the Ex-Im Bank's effect on Air India vice Delta...we're no longer competitive there because OUR government subsidizes them to the tune of $300/ticket over a 30-year period.

I hate to say it, but I'll take a smaller raise to keep this guy as CEO. He knows how to run an airline, and he cares about its performance.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
You wanna fly outta my base, bid my base. You call it seniority jumping "crap", I disagree. Also, is the little fact that when this is done, the company will figure that they don't need as many reserves, so that will eventually cost jobs... all so you can get that trip that your seniority won't hold at YOUR base....
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you are right on the money with this. I think everyone who scours another base's open time/swap board finds a "little gem" that they'd like to fly at least once.

However, opening up the other base's open time (as if you were in base) to the rest of the world would almost certainly show up as a blip on the beancounters screen as the airline needing fewer reserves in the category.

So it isn't gambling with your own seniority, Big Guns, its gambling with the seniority of the junior reserves in the category you want to cherry pick.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin View Post
So all that matters is the number of reserves??? How bout all the people that prefer quality of life and don't chase the almighty dollar?
I don't get it, who's chasing the almighty dollar?
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T spends fourty years wondering the desert on a fruitless quest for LBP, and along the way, he is graced with powerful revelations, including this one: thou shalt not poach thy neighbor's base, thereby weakening thy brother's flying. And the coveting therefore shall be forbidden.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:30 PM
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T spends fourty years wondering the desert on a fruitless quest for LBP, and along the way, he is graced with powerful revelations, including this one: thou shalt not poach they neighbor's base, thereby weakening thy brother's flying. And the coveting therefore shall be forbidden.
I have confession to make. I am beginning to covet my wife.



Is that okay?
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I don't get it, who's chasing the almighty dollar?

The 88's not chasing the almighty dollar, it don't give a $h1T
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:31 PM
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I have confession to make. I am beginning to covet my wife.



Is that okay?
Is this a softball, or what?

Who will be the first to say "...it's OK I've been coveting her for years"?
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin View Post
So all that matters is the number of reserves??? How bout all the people that prefer quality of life and don't chase the almighty dollar?

RBF,

The current rules allow for out of base white slips - it is just far down the list. If we relaxed these rules it would be detrimental to the Quality of Life of all Delta Pilots especially the junior guys.

If DAL all of sudden needed less reserves because of a contract change we could either furlough now or remain overstaffed and delay hiring in the future- both negatively affect QOL.

I am not sure how "chasing the almighty dollar' fits into this discussion, if anything in my opinion the out of base guy trying to WS might be the guy chasing the $$$$.

Just my 2 Centavos

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