Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-22-2012 | 11:47 AM
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I have a question. How hard is it to get info on which 50 seater leases Delta has assumed or renewed, when, and for how long? It seems to me some of these leases are ridiculously long, and it's been known for quite a while that 50 seaters are inefficient and DL has a glut of them. Is it possible that Delta intentionally leased too many 50 seaters for too long, knowing they could parlay those aircraft into the big RJ's they really wanted? This TA has been a long time in the making even though DAL is making it seem very rush-rush now. I'm guessing the 50-for-76 swap has been a management wet dream since the jcba, if not since BK.
05-22-2012 | 12:03 PM
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I am at a Connection Carrier and agree with most everyone ALPA representing Majors and there regionals is a total conflict of interest. It has been that way for many years now. Why have our dues not gone directly to repeal the RLA in some form in order to have more leverage against our comapanies when negotiations come around? Just curious. Seems like we continue to mow over the weeds instead of picking them out by the root. The root being our lack of leverage against bankrupcy, subpar TA's, the list goes on...any thoughts
05-22-2012 | 12:06 PM
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Hey slow. Section 1.D.9 has block hour ratios based on the 767-300 (non ER) aircraft. Since management has already stated that those airplanes are destined for the scrap heap, why is this even in the contract. I think this could be a GREAT thing, since a ratio based on zero is zero. Or is there another loophole that I don't see?
05-22-2012 | 12:08 PM
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But not until after 2014, right? That is when the snapshot is taken...
05-22-2012 | 12:19 PM
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The changes to reserve were part of a package, and that package has some job protections in it. First is the ALV. Once you've reached it you can't be assigned more flying. If you're under it you can be assigned ALV +15. But that is limited by the staffing formula, as it requires jobs to be added when reserves are used more than 60 hours per month on average. Another protection is the 6 additional scheduled X days per year, increasing to up to 18 additional for categories staffed at over 20%.
Bottom line, with the additional time off and the staffing formula as a backdrop, there's no way to run reserves at ALV + 15 for any length of time.
05-22-2012 | 12:22 PM
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Not exactly...it's an aircraft delivery (event based) as well as time based ratio. If management never buys another 76 seater, then the ratio doesn't come into play. If they buy all 70 allowable, then they have to have 88 small narrowbody aircraft on the property, 125 50 seaters left, and a max of 450 total DCI left. Then they do the ratio and ensure that for every block hour DCI flies mainline has at least 1.56. It's planned to be over 1.7.
05-22-2012 | 12:24 PM
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Going off memory here, so don't smack me too hard if I've got a piece of data wrong. I'm going to be (hopefully) off the grid tomorrow so I'll look this stuff up Thursday.
The changes to reserve were part of a package, and that package has some job protections in it. First is the ALV. Once you've reached it you can't be assigned more flying. If you're under it you can be assigned ALV +15. But that is limited by the staffing formula, as it requires jobs to be added when reserves are used more than 60 hours per month on average. Another protection is the 6 additional scheduled X days per year, increasing to up to 18 additional for categories staffed at over 20%.
Bottom line, with the additional time off and the staffing formula as a backdrop, there's no way to run reserves at ALV + 15 for any length of time.
The changes to reserve were part of a package, and that package has some job protections in it. First is the ALV. Once you've reached it you can't be assigned more flying. If you're under it you can be assigned ALV +15. But that is limited by the staffing formula, as it requires jobs to be added when reserves are used more than 60 hours per month on average. Another protection is the 6 additional scheduled X days per year, increasing to up to 18 additional for categories staffed at over 20%.
Bottom line, with the additional time off and the staffing formula as a backdrop, there's no way to run reserves at ALV + 15 for any length of time.
05-22-2012 | 12:28 PM
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From: DAL 7ER FO
14. “Circumstance over which the Company does not have control,” for the purposes of
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Section 1, means a circumstance that includes, but is not limited to, a natural disaster;
29 labor dispute; grounding of a substantial number of the Company’s aircraft by a
30 government agency; reduction in flying operations because of a decrease in available fuel
31 supply or other critical materials due to either governmental action or commercial
32 suppliers being unable to provide sufficient fuel or other critical materials for the
33 Company’s operations; revocation of the Company’s operating certificate(s); war
34 emergency; owner’s delay in delivery of aircraft scheduled for delivery; manufacturer’s
35 delay in delivery of new aircraft scheduled for delivery. The term “circumstance over
36 which the Company does not have control” will not include the price of fuel or other
37 supplies, the price of aircraft, the state of the economy, the financial state of the
38 Company, or the relative profitability or unprofitability of the Company’s then-current
29 labor dispute; grounding of a substantial number of the Company’s aircraft by a
30 government agency; reduction in flying operations because of a decrease in available fuel
31 supply or other critical materials due to either governmental action or commercial
32 suppliers being unable to provide sufficient fuel or other critical materials for the
33 Company’s operations; revocation of the Company’s operating certificate(s); war
34 emergency; owner’s delay in delivery of aircraft scheduled for delivery; manufacturer’s
35 delay in delivery of new aircraft scheduled for delivery. The term “circumstance over
36 which the Company does not have control” will not include the price of fuel or other
37 supplies, the price of aircraft, the state of the economy, the financial state of the
38 Company, or the relative profitability or unprofitability of the Company’s then-current
39 operations.
05-22-2012 | 12:30 PM
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Going off memory here, so don't smack me too hard if I've got a piece of data wrong. I'm going to be (hopefully) off the grid tomorrow so I'll look this stuff up Thursday.
The changes to reserve were part of a package, and that package has some job protections in it. First is the ALV. Once you've reached it you can't be assigned more flying. If you're under it you can be assigned ALV +15. But that is limited by the staffing formula, as it requires jobs to be added when reserves are used more than 60 hours per month on average. Another protection is the 6 additional scheduled X days per year, increasing to up to 18 additional for categories staffed at over 20%.
Bottom line, with the additional time off and the staffing formula as a backdrop, there's no way to run reserves at ALV + 15 for any length of time.
The changes to reserve were part of a package, and that package has some job protections in it. First is the ALV. Once you've reached it you can't be assigned more flying. If you're under it you can be assigned ALV +15. But that is limited by the staffing formula, as it requires jobs to be added when reserves are used more than 60 hours per month on average. Another protection is the 6 additional scheduled X days per year, increasing to up to 18 additional for categories staffed at over 20%.
Bottom line, with the additional time off and the staffing formula as a backdrop, there's no way to run reserves at ALV + 15 for any length of time.
Not exactly...it's an aircraft delivery (event based) as well as time based ratio. If management never buys another 76 seater, then the ratio doesn't come into play. If they buy all 70 allowable, then they have to have 88 small narrowbody aircraft on the property, 125 50 seaters left, and a max of 450 total DCI left. Then they do the ratio and ensure that for every block hour DCI flies mainline has at least 1.56. It's planned to be over 1.7.
Thanks for the clarification. This helps a lot.
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