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05-22-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
If they buy all 70 allowable, then they have to have 88 small narrowbody aircraft on the property, 125 50 seaters left, and a max of 450 total DCI left. Then they do the ratio and ensure that for every block hour DCI flies mainline has at least 1.56. It's planned to be over 1.7.
Once those aircraft are on property at DCI with 20 year contracts, where is the poison pill?
What happens in 2015 if Delta parks mainline planes in 4Q 2012?
05-22-2012, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
And what happens if they don't?
Once those aircraft are on property at DCI with 20 year contracts, where is the poison pill?
What happens in 2015 if Delta parks mainline planes in 4Q 2012?
Once those aircraft are on property at DCI with 20 year contracts, where is the poison pill?
What happens in 2015 if Delta parks mainline planes in 4Q 2012?
The block hour ratio is the poison pill. The hard aircraft counts are a poison pill. If DAL parks aircraft, then DCI has to shrink block hours to maintain a 1.1-1.56 ratio depending on how many 76 seaters are on property at DCI.
05-22-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I guess you don't like your regionals to be regional, you'd rather them do ATL-BZN and MSP-YVR....
This deal is going to take mainline's share of domestic block hours from 54% to a minimum of 61%. If management executes on the business plan the share will actually be 64% mainline to DCI's 36%.
This deal is going to take mainline's share of domestic block hours from 54% to a minimum of 61%. If management executes on the business plan the share will actually be 64% mainline to DCI's 36%.
Counting the total block hours DAL vs DCI including all the DC9s, 747-200's 757's and other aircraft that were parked after the merger, what would the ratio be? What was the ratio in the year 2000?
05-22-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I guess you don't like your regionals to be regional, you'd rather them do ATL-BZN and MSP-YVR....
This deal is going to take mainline's share of domestic block hours from 54% to a minimum of 61%. If management executes on the business plan the share will actually be 64% mainline to DCI's 36%.
Oh, I suspect you'll see some of the city pairs you mentioned on a small narrowbody aircraft. Look at the historical ATL-DC9 bid packages for some more routes we may see come to the mainline. NewYork LGA is also a place ripe for upgauging, as it is slot constrained.
Did anybody notice the all-mainline LGA growth announcement on Monday...maybe that slot swap was good for us after all.
This deal is going to take mainline's share of domestic block hours from 54% to a minimum of 61%. If management executes on the business plan the share will actually be 64% mainline to DCI's 36%.
Oh, I suspect you'll see some of the city pairs you mentioned on a small narrowbody aircraft. Look at the historical ATL-DC9 bid packages for some more routes we may see come to the mainline. NewYork LGA is also a place ripe for upgauging, as it is slot constrained.
Did anybody notice the all-mainline LGA growth announcement on Monday...maybe that slot swap was good for us after all.
Well, upgaging is all relative isn't it. Since a bunch of that LGA flying is on 50 seaters, we are giving that to the 76 seaters... next.. That being said, I never thought the slot swap would be any boon to mainline, but any improvement there is good. It is going to take a long time to make it really fruitful for us though... especially with all those 76 seaters going to DCI..
05-22-2012, 01:08 PM
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Hey and where's the fire with all of this anyway? It's May of 2012. At the earliest we wouldn't see a 717 in Delta paint until September of 2013. So why are we in a rush to put a contract in place on July 1, 2012? Something ain't right with these knee goat sheet odor boys.
05-22-2012, 01:14 PM
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Listen up guys. If we vote this down, since it is a section six negotiation, the company cannot come back with a lesser deal. Very simple. The pay and retirement are an insult.
05-22-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
People need to print THAT post out and show it to everyone they fly with.
1000% accurate.
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05-22-2012, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Listen up guys. If we vote this down, since it is a section six negotiation, the company cannot come back with a lesser deal. Very simple. The pay and retirement are an insult.
05-22-2012, 01:42 PM
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It's being reported that SWA will lease us the 717's. A foregone conclusion? Don't paint 'em yet boys...
05-22-2012, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
Quick question:
Counting the total block hours DAL vs DCI including all the DC9s, 747-200's 757's and other aircraft that were parked after the merger, what would the ratio be? What was the ratio in the year 2000?
Counting the total block hours DAL vs DCI including all the DC9s, 747-200's 757's and other aircraft that were parked after the merger, what would the ratio be? What was the ratio in the year 2000?
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