I would hope CHQ/RAH pilots would not take exception to Eagle vigorously defending their contract. As posted previously, it's not about the CHQ pilots, it's about AMR breaching terms of the contract, and management doing pretty much whatever they want. Again.

Rich,

Thank you for your thoughts.

I will contact my base reps to see where they think we stand. That only goes so far however.

I would hope the Eagle reps would also consider picking up the phone. As of a few days ago, the APA scope committee changed personnel. Many would consider the change in philosophy and personality "significant." There are (reasonable) people on the committee that I believe would be open to starting up a dialogue again.

Duck, Who cares!

CHQ was hired to fly for TWA in St Louis now you are are moving to a Eagle base. If the CHQ pilots are being used to undermine flying at Eagle your EXCO needs to work with Eagles MEC to solve the problem.

Don't let BB use Republic to undermine other pilots

Support your profession.

goaround,

Unfortunately in 13 years it still takes 50 minutes to fly from MSN to ORD and it still takes at least 40 minutes to turn a plane in ORD.. that's my point. We can always cram in an extra flight at 730PM and return it to ORD, but that's not Eagle's decision but AMR's (since they control the scheduling).

I highly doubt that Eagle has 10 ERJs that sit in ORD for 2 to 3 hours at a time where they could do a turn to DBQ, AZO, or SPI.

So what I see happening is Eagle ALPA getting their way with regards to CHQ, which will result in CHQ laying off pilots (loss #1) (unless they move them to YX, which could happen, but probably not likely, there's only so many markets out of MKE that work)... AMR will then trim the overall schedule @ ORD to show the loss of 11 lines, where the consumer loses (#2), and cities like SPI, AZO, EVV, CMI, MLI, GRR, DBQ, LSE may see lost flights or be cut entirely (#3).

Eagle's block times don't change, they still get 22 more jets, but hey, Eagle ALPA showed AMR who is boss (again). Glad someone got something out of this move.

(for the record, I'd totally side w/ Eagle if their overall Block Hours were being cut, but from the looks of it, its an asset move to increase utilization & flying at other hubs).

I'd also like to point out that Trans States tried feverishly to get a pro-rate agreement and offer flights from Miami to points that Eagle previously operated (TLH, GNV, DAB, PNS, TCB, etc) yet Eagle ALPA shot them down left & right. Eagle ALPA also prevented Regions Air from moving Saabs from CLE to STL and open STL-MCI, STL-CVG, and STL-OMA (when no one else was doing them)... routes that could have done well had the company survived the FAA gestapo search-and-destroy tactics with the manuals.

If that was all you were told then they told you a partial truth. It was a staple with DOH for furlough protection.

On a side note, Rich hope you and the family are well. Been a while since the Pink Palace.

Really?!? Is that why the majority of your Capts are super-senior and never leave? Also keep in mind "big brother" will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat if it benefits them in ANY way; no sibling love here....

Are you kidding?

Absolutely !! No way in hell AA PILOTS will ever care how much flying AE looses to CHQ or vice-versa. They just dont want to give any more flying away anymore, Specially having furlough pilots since 2001.

ASK AN AA PILOT. If he has time, he/she might tell you what they think.

Cheers.

Don't forget about the unintended consequences...

I'm not saying a union shouldn't fervently protect its membership's interests...but one has to consider how a legal decision in favor of EGL ALPA, requiring AMR to terminate CHQ's contract early and absorb their dozen-plus airframes, would financially impact AMR and how that impact would trickle back down to Eagle pilots.

"If American terminates the agreement without cause" What is CAUSE in this case? Is it Cause enogh that the routes they were contracted to perform out of STL are no longer viable business? Or is this CAUSE performance based?