Skywest management needs to keep in mind since they lowered the bar so low on the 50 seat Airways flying that when it comes up for renewal Airways will expect the bar to be lowered even more. Just as Mesa's extended 900 flying, instead of a wider profit margin they had before is now very slim at best, just to save Airways $25 million.

I would expect in 2015 that Skywest will lower the bar again when the Mesa 900 flying comes up for renewal.Skywest will run out of money eventually since they choose to fly at a loss and could follow Mesa in BK. I don't think any regional is immune to BK if they continue down the Mesa path of business.

Yep, clearly SkyWest has no idea how to make money at the airline business, and are well on their way to Mesa's financial status. I'm glad you were able to point that out for us.

Figured that would get a smarta$$ reply...Typical when someone reads too far into something.

actually, it seems he just read the words that you yourself typed into the computer. no depth necessary.

ripster36,

You misinterpreted my post - I sincerely congratulate the folks of SkyWest landing this contract. It was by no means a smart-a$$ comment at all. Did you bother read my post? If anything, OJ and his henchmen are purely to blame for Mesa's misfortunes. Meanwhile these boys get to rig their golden parachutes and make a clean getaway at the peril of the employees. Even more reason for me to leave here for good and not give Mesa the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you can a put in a good word for me at SkyWest. Cheers.

i just can't seem to get this out of my mind. first of all, what in the world are you basing this on? that statement that your boss put out? i wouldn't believe him if he told me the sky is blue, and i certainly don't believe anything he says about skywest.

secondly, i can't even imagine that someone that is soon going to be working for kalitta is telling anyone about lowering the bar. you're going to be paid how much for flying a 747???

Pretty sure he is talking about what the COMPANY gets paid to operate the acft....not the pilots.

Yes the COMPANY..Don't think I mentioned anything about pilots.
There goes that whole interpretation thing again.

As long as the company can reap massive economy-of-scale savings from their huge operation, they can lower the bar all they want as far as pay-for-lift goes. That's win-win for the company, the pilots, the major partner, and the flying public...everybody but the small inefficient regionals.

Different matter entirely if they try to lower the bar by cutting pilot pay, but SKW pilots still get paid a lot more than mesa pilots.

I don't believe anything he says either. I also don't believe for a second that Skywest MANAGEMENT had only one reason to underbid the contract.That is, to generate some revenue on parked planes.That's a given.

My interpretation is that they (MANAGEMENT) are also getting their foot in the door for the 900 flying in 2015 that comes up again for bidding.Or any other Airways RJ flying that comes up.

FWIW.. 3rd year FO pay at K4 will be what I'm making (per hour) as a 11 year CA on the 900, actually I will make more when you consider per diem and the difference in insurance cost.Do some research on Evergreens pay scale for the 747 compared to K4. And yes Atlas is better.Having a 747 PIC type rating is more valuable down the road than 2 RJ types.

Cheers.