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#41

Wingtips , 10-22-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by buddies8

so vote no and tell all to vote no.
let amr get some other pilot group to try this out on.
oh thats right they dont have anyone else.
alpa is on the mgt pay package with a 10 million dollar
windfall in three years. DFR

I smell an alter ego coming, with someone like bankrupt lakes pilots lining up for fast upgrades and sub standard pay.....this smells familiar doesnt it?

#42

ERJF15 , 10-22-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingtips

I smell an alter ego coming, with someone like bankrupt lakes pilots lining up for fast upgrades and sub standard pay.....this smells familiar doesnt it?

Who is gonna start the alter ego?

#43

Wingtips , 10-22-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ERJF15

Who is gonna start the alter ego?

Anyone?? Including Eagle itself, at an attempt to keep the flying by working for less. Also any other airline that wants to sneak around AA scope and try and get the in as well. Hopefully a lack of pilots over the next 5 years, really craps on AMRs plan here, otherwise this will be nasty. Its likes bend over and take it now or keep your pride but we will bend someone else over and they will take your job.

Just remember there is only a shortage till people are losing their jobs. Then it just becomes musical chairs, and sucks for those playing.

#44

ERJF15 , 10-22-2011 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingtips

Eagle cannot start an alter ego.

#45

buddies8 , 10-23-2011 06:38 AM

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no but AMR can.

#46

Wingtips , 10-23-2011 07:01 AM

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We are gonna get ***** slapped no matter how we vote. I would rather be ***** slapped and at least have a shot at career progression. As opposed to being ***** slapped into being like the guys in my class from Comair that were 6 year+ FOs and now starting over as new FOs at Eagle at age 33+, while I fly with Captains that are the same age and going to J6/Atlas/Virgin/Spirit/ETC or a few numbers away from the 824.

The only time the ***** slapping will end is if the majors actually see these retirements in A FEW YEARS, and don't give all their domestic flying to the regionals first to offset the need for pilots.

#47

bailee atr , 10-23-2011 07:05 AM

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One way or another, Eagle is going to be getting rid of all the little ERJ's and transitioning to 70-seat CRJ's. With the exception of a small number of very senior pilots who don't leave, virtually ALL their future CRJ captains will be on ERJ or ATR rates.

Not true. The total amount of pilots in each band is in direct proportion to each fleet size. If we park all ATRs and EMJs and replace them with CRJ7 we all get CRJ7 pay.
Also if we get rid of the ATR that pay band goes away.

#48

ERJF15 , 10-23-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wingtips

What ever dude...and it's B6.

#49

Wingtips , 10-23-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by erjf15

what ever dude...and it's b6.

oh god a typo on my ipad who would ever of thought!!!

#50

eaglefly , 10-23-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bailee atr

Only till the first amendment round in 2014. Then all pay rates will be tied to the cheapest competitors and tied to their longevity as well.

Management can persue the arbitration process if necessary to recalculate longevity/rates downward yearly thereafter, ensuring you are "competitive" pilots.....another word is "cheap".

You're screwed.