LNS (Lancaster, PA) is a non-federal tower. How does the FAA shut them down?!?

Most of those towers I believe are contract towers.

Who cares? UNV, AOO, BKW, SHD, JHW, BFD are all places we flew to at Colgan without towers.

CKB and HPN had limited hours. I remember going into HPN being #4 after 11pm and you had to just figure it out. CKB we used to depart prior to the tower opening which was a pain in the ass.

Some guys would have no issue just blasting off VFR in the Saab and getting the clearance in the air.

Voice mail from silver today for class on the 25th of March but they didnt say which aircraft it is for. When I spoke to HR before my interview 4 weeks ago they said they were hiring into the Saab, but when I interviewed I was offered the B1900. I turned down the job and the next day HR called me and asked if I would be interested if a Saab position opened and I said yes. just wondering if anyone has any info on whats going on at silver.

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Yeah, that would be nice. Too bad we can't do that per our ops specs...

Some of the locations will be okay without towers. Some are going to be a royal pain in the butt. TUP comes to mind with all the T-6s coming up there and tying up the approaches in a non-radar environment.

Who says you can't take off VFR and get a clearance in the air? I've done it plenty of times heck that's the only way in the Bahamas pretty much.....

Yeah, the islands is the only place we do that. All the time in the CLE system it was clearance on the ground before departure, usually at the hold short line. Even in severe clear conditions. Looks like the IAD and ATL systems will largely revert to that.

I've done it at our non towered out stations in the ATL systems many a times. It's legal both per the FAR's and company op specs and much faster than waiting around on the phone, GCO, or through the crappy ground freqs for approach and center. Same thing up north in CLE heck most of the time that was the fastest and easiest way to make CRP up there.

Just curious... have you read our ops spec concerning those operations? Or the most recent ops bulletin?

Just because it is legal per the FARs, if company ops specs are more restrictive, they take precedence.

The company has made it clear that the only time we can depart VFR and pick up our IFR in the air is when departing from the Bahamas. So, who cares if it is faster. If it takes 20 minutes to get a clearance, oh well...

Besides... I've had more problems getting a clearance coming out of the Bahamas than I have using an GCO or calling the FSS.