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Ottolillienthal , 04-21-2012 03:07 PM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by CheapFlyer

Couldn't all this be a moot point anyway? Asking for a release and getting a release are two very very different things. I see regional airlines going 5 years before the NMB releases them. Maybe a major is "higher visibility"? Historically, how long has it taken majors to be released from the NMB?

Either way this is a great thing, it's a step in the right direction and a required step towards the ultimate goal.

Good points.

I had a few muses on the subject:

1. Does Obama feel pressure from organized labor to come through and relase a major union to self help? with labor lagging in all states, if the Democrats hope to keep labor on their side in the voting booth, surely Obama's advisors are whispering in his ears to let labor be labor.

2. Is the NMB sufficiently stacked with good people who not only see things our way, but will have the hueavos to relase us?

3. Since we are "too big to fail" as touted by some, are we "too big to be released?" Domestic and International Aviation Commerce is such a huge sector of our economy would Obama order us to stay at work even if we take a strike vote to walk and have cooled off? It is a good chance the President will form a PEB to protect the national economy.

4. What will ALPA's PR campaign look like? How will it be countered by UCH mgt?

5. Will the scabs be looking for an opportunity to redeem themselves, or will they fold like a cheap polyester leasure suit?

#242

ewrbasedpilot , 04-22-2012 07:27 AM

HOSED BY PBS AGAIN

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Originally Posted by AxlF16

Uh oh. You're about to get a PM from a mod saying not to call me a douche. Ask me how I know!

Maybe I come across as a douche because I just keep saying what you don't want to hear! You CAN get things from the company! There are a couple of you here that just seem resigned to the crappy circumstances that you're in now. That CAN change! I never expected, nor do I now expect, a JCBA overnight. The truth is that we can have a TA inside 1 month from today if mgmt wanted to make a deal. That was true 2 years ago btw. There is still plenty of fight to go, so lets keep our expectations high and our chins low. I have very high expectations or I'll be voting NO.

I don't point out what is in our CBA to taunt you, just to show what you can expect to see in the JCBA. Besides, otto blamed us for your contract;-) The beauty is that we BOTH have painful parts of the CBAs that will go away!

So I'm gonna peace out for a while since I don't think ****ing contests are very helpful. Fun, but not helpful. BTW, I know you really don't think I'm a douche

Okay..............douche war over.

I know EXACTLY what you're saying, but unfortunately, when you're the frog on the lilypad in the pond of life (how picturesque, eh????) there's not a whole lot you or I can do to make a JCBA or SLI happen over night. Believe me, we're sick and tired of the continual abuse caused by our horrific contract. What's even more incredible is how our pilots are offered reduced flying lines each month and the NEXT DAY they're offering junior manning due to SHORT STAFFING! Also, are the NEGOTIATORS and ATTORNEYS that wrote this garbage for us still employed? They definitely need to go back to first grade and start over again because they are FAILING miserably and OFTEN. I'm still trying to figure out how management is ALWAYS TEN steps ahead of us. After 75 years you'd expect ALPA to at least be out of the starting gate as far as contracts are concerned, but it seems they are still trying to get IN the gate so they can start! I can only hope our union finally has the huevos to get us something good instead of GIVING MANGEMENT everything like they ALWAYS seem to do.