I find myself saying nine instead of niner. I know it bothers others, but I am not going to kill myself trying to remember to correct it. I doubt people think that I am making a radio call for runway one NO.

I said it can serve a purpose; I never said it was AIM correct.

“with you” has been around since before I started flying 30 years ago. Usually nothing endures that long unless it’s useful and serves a purpose. (redundancy intended, just to annoy you and Mach 84 )




Maybe I’ll just use the word “heavy” instead.

probly for the same reason all you airline guys say "decimal" when asked for your mack number by ATC.
what a tool

whats a Mack number?

Using "and" is left over from the old days, when there would be a noticable delay from the time you hit the transmit button and the time it transmits, so what you would do is say "and approach..." because the "and" would not be transmitted due to the delay. This way what you wanted to say would not be partially transmitted.

You don't have to do it anymore because of improvements made.

Well that was my point, lots of people who have been complaining about inproper radio procedures, do not follow all of the radio procedures themselves.

If you (not you directly) make all the radio calls to the book, then you can complain about someone else for not doing so, but if you do not use proper radio procedure all the time than really complaing about someone else is just the pot calling the kettle black.

Where, I cannot find any references to "any traffic in the area please advise." Can you let me know where it is, because I make this call often when flying at uncontrolled fields.

The newest version of the AIM has that change.

Thanks, I have the 06 FAR/AIM, you must have the 07 one. I don't see what's wrong with this term, it is the fastest way to gain situational awareness upon entering the pattern, as otherwise you have to wait until the traffic makes their next call. And some pilots don't like making radio calls at all, I've had cases where I said "Any traffic in the area, please advise," and another plane in the pattern, after stating his position, also said that there was a third airplane on downwind who wasn't using his radio (or didn't have one). But, I digress. Thanks for the heads up, though.

ahhhh the forum board spell checker, everyone loves you guys. Miller beer should make a commercial about you guys. "Mr. forum board spell checker"

But Mack is what you get when you post with a PDA that only has a phone pad