"..with you..."
11-22-2006, 05:22 AM
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"..with you..."
Why do you corporate guys always find it necessary to tell the controllers that you are "...with you..." when you check in on a frequency? The controllers know that by the very reason you are talking to them. It's redundant, a total waste of time, and sounds student pilotish.
11-22-2006, 06:38 AM
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with you response
have you ever thought of worrying about more important things than how pilots talk on the radio??? and to answer your question, maybe they say "with you" for the same reason you list yourself as a BOEING capt. Who cares???????????????, not to say you probably have a Boeing Captain bumper sticker on your car, just as a new pilot would have FAA licensed pilot, so dont go bashing on where you once were which probably was not that long ago.
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11-22-2006, 08:47 AM
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I like to say it. I also say "any traffic please advise on the CTAF", "roger, wilco", "popeye", "we have them on the fishfinder" and start all of my transmissions with "uhhh."
In fact, since you brought it up, I'm going to make sure that I do it more often.
Also, while we're on the subject, why does everybody start a check on with "Washington Center" (or whatever center you're in)... obviously they know who they are. It's totally redundant and sounds student pilotish....
(You'd think with all of the other issues that this industry is facing, this would be one of the last ones out there that warrants discussion...)
In fact, since you brought it up, I'm going to make sure that I do it more often.
Also, while we're on the subject, why does everybody start a check on with "Washington Center" (or whatever center you're in)... obviously they know who they are. It's totally redundant and sounds student pilotish....
(You'd think with all of the other issues that this industry is facing, this would be one of the last ones out there that warrants discussion...)
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11-22-2006, 08:56 AM
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Actually grady I have "bashed" airline pilots on the same subject.
I have the same respect for all pilot groups...wasn't bashing any one of them. I already went thru the airline pilot forums pointing out the same ridiculous absurdity of "...with you".
To make you happy I removed any reference to the aircraft type I fly.
Another thing -- ATC points out on-coming traffic at the flight levels simply so you won't be alarmed thinking he's at the same altitude. A simple "thank you" or "in sight" in the inital reply is fine but there is no need to later clog up the frequency to tell him you finally have the traffic in sight -- he doesn't care one iota. I have seen a lot of blocked calls because guys think they need to later tell center they have traffic in sight.
I have the same respect for all pilot groups...wasn't bashing any one of them. I already went thru the airline pilot forums pointing out the same ridiculous absurdity of "...with you".
To make you happy I removed any reference to the aircraft type I fly.
Another thing -- ATC points out on-coming traffic at the flight levels simply so you won't be alarmed thinking he's at the same altitude. A simple "thank you" or "in sight" in the inital reply is fine but there is no need to later clog up the frequency to tell him you finally have the traffic in sight -- he doesn't care one iota. I have seen a lot of blocked calls because guys think they need to later tell center they have traffic in sight.
11-22-2006, 09:13 AM
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Just another way for CFIs to milk students out of money...I found my own style / pace on the radio and as long as I cover the information / don't take up too much time I'm not changing.
I do the same as you Josh...Of course, I'm not a pro so maybe I should just go away...
-LAFF
I do the same as you Josh...Of course, I'm not a pro so maybe I should just go away...
-LAFF
11-22-2006, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
Center, Fedex 1218, flight level 310.
That should suffice.
That should suffice.
Sigh...I only wish,
Mine is the same only, "Center, Duchess 5173M, Seven Thousand"
It just doesnt sound as cool. The only time I have been to the flight levels have been when I fly commerically
11-22-2006, 01:19 PM
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"With you" "checking on" ect......... bugs me too. But hey, its a free country right! Just dont try that stuff in the MNPS/NAT or anywhere else in the world. The person on the other end probably won't have any idea what you are saying.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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11-22-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach 84
Why do you corporate guys always find it necessary to tell the controllers that you are "...with you..." when you check in on a frequency?
Certainly one thing I've never done is spewed an entire cabin announcement over ATC. Heard a guy do this AGAIN at ORD of all places on ground control. ORD GROUND CONTROL!!!! That was popular.
