This is where you really come off the tracks. There is no theft, period. We are operating under the provisions of the transition agreement-SEPARATE OPERATIONS. USAPA was unsuccessful in achieving a DOH SLI. Now if you said some attempted to steal, well that you be your opinion, but as of today there is no theft.

I was first a captain for this airline in 1992. I am in the seat and base I held in 2001 and I was in it before USAPA was elected. You guys just want the Nicolau aided theft of MY seat.

I think PHX will play a role in the new AA, if we merge. But I don't see the expansion of it. I think we can grow the Pacific out of the west coast and many of the current connections made in PHX can be done better in DFW. Right now PHX is our only hub were mainline is bigger than regional. I see that flip flopping. I hope I'm wrong. I hope PHX grows tremendously and you all stay in the sand box of hell. I certainly don't want it.

So outside of a merger, at what point are we getting off separate ops and finally getting higher pay, work rules, and vacation? I don't understand the benefit of being the lowest paid captains just to win the seniority.

You are trying to apply logic and logic left this fight a looong time ago. It is all about being right/winning now. On both sides.

I wish I had an answer for you. Years ago I thought there had to be one, that a group of supposedly intelligent people wouldn't continue this battle. I was wrong. That realization came from being a moderator on a west founded web board.

I appreciate your honesty. It's like the old quote.. it's better to be happy than right. And here both sides desperately want to be right.

I flew with an interesting captain once. Psychology major in college. I always felt like he was trying to get in my head. Anyway, one day he said "people would rather die than be wrong." I though he was full of it. After watching this debacle for 8 years I think he was right all along.

I wish I had a solution.

Here let me help you cause you've been a bit on the slow side here lately. When you go into a store you agree to pay for your items. When you decide that you are not going to honor that agreement and then take the items its called THEFT!! There really is no reason to ague here relay as you can not win this one.

Now regarding the business aspect of PHX and how it all plays out will be a matter for senior management. Regarding being locked in PHX I doubt it, usapa will get its anus handed it to them this time around and I am betting that most of the west first officers will be headed your way to take up their capt slots. Did you know that most of them will be senior to you when this is done?? I hope you don't mind reserve.

WD at AWA

DO YOU HAVE A JCBA? IF NOT, NEGOTIATE A JCBA. SEPARATE OPS UNTIL YOU HAVE A JCBA.

DO YOU HAVE A JCBA? IF NOT, NEGOTIATE A JCBA. SEPARATE OPS UNTIL YOU HAVE A JCBA.

DO YOU HAVE A JCBA? IF NOT, NEGOTIATE A JCBA. SEPARATE OPS UNTIL YOU HAVE A JCBA.

DO YOU HAVE A JCBA? IF NOT, NEGOTIATE A JCBA. SEPARATE OPS UNTIL YOU HAVE A JCBA.

I've already won this one. Actually most west F/Os were junior to me on the Nic, but thanks for pointing out the windfall again.

THEFT? Are East pilots flying West metal? Kirby stated West flying 30% of former East routes. Go easy on the booze Whiskey.

Not if you were hired in 86 they are not. Go back and look at the ONLY RECOGNIZED seniority and I am certain that once again you are not correct. No longer need you for jcba just need case over with doj and we have a MOU which as you know is a CBA, GAME OVER its rest6 of your career on res for you buddy.

WD at AWA

How you been woody? I see you are up to you old tricks of insulting people you dont know. Didnt that mouth of yours almost land you in jail and out of a job? ALPA bailed you out though huh?

WD at AWA