Coincidence ?

I think not.

It's stunning how some fail to see that in order for this engine to run smoothly (or at all), Envoy will have to recruit sufficient pilots. Problem is, those pilots simply don't exist. It's all a house of cards, designed for a temporary goal.

But, what a parade (or is it charade ?) you promote...........it's quite spectacular.

Shhh.............facts aren't important now, SALES are !

Disregard the fine print please.

Yes. Once that metric occurs, it will be easier to whipsaw the separate groups and that includes flow-thru provisions, especially in the case of consolidation.

But first, AAG has to limp there and there's been some bumps and they have to shuffle things around for a year or so until Envoy's 824 arbitration is exhausted and the three WO's are right-sized.

Oh I didn't realize you had to flow?? So if you go to any of the 3 WO'ed airlines you can't 'better yourself and network?' I forgot I guess you can't go to any other major airline but American.

There's no pot met kettle here.

You make yourself sound dumber and dumber every time you write something. Why don't you add a little disclaimer in all your posts that says your intention is to kill all of AAG's regional field. At least then we could read understand the bias involved in your posts.

Who was your MEC memeber that helped you pass your last contract? His or her name? Didn't they leave Envoy for AA shortly after the passing of the CBA?

Only 1 left; and he was a yes vote on everything that came down. Schoolhouse guy.

Do you mean after the failed TA?
2 left after. 1 yes & 1 no voter.

Bill Sprauge might be who you're thinking of. Laughed in our MEC's negotiating committee and MECVC's faces when they (PDT) tried forming an alliance at an ALPA FFD meeting.

I don't post often but I thought I pass along this tidbit from the September 5 Ft. Worth Star-Telegram Article "Hiring spree brings new blood to American Airlines"

Fort Worth resident Nathan Sidwell, 33, walked into American’s training center on his first day not knowing what kind of plane he was going to fly or what city he would be based in.

Sidwell, who flew C-130s for the Marine Corps at Naval Air Station Fort Worth, met an American Airlines pilot at a kid’s birthday party a few years ago who suggested he think about flying for the airline.

“He said, ‘We’re going through bankruptcy right now, but in a couple of years when you get out, give us a call,’” Sidwell said.

When his time in the Marines was up, he started the application process with American.

Within a few minutes of the start of class for pilot hires, Sidwell and about a dozen other pilots learned that they would be based at either New York LaGuardia or Miami and would fly Boeing 737s or Airbus narrow-body aircraft.

Sidwell was one of two “off-the-street” hires to start at American this month. The others in the class were pilots who had flown for American’s regional subsidiaries Envoy Air and Piedmont Airlines.

“Half of a new-hire class on average is going to be comprised of the flow-through pilots, and those guys and girls have been flying for the regional carriers for anywhere from 15 to 25 years,” said Jim Thomas, managing director of flight training and standards. “They have an enormous amount of experience.”


Read more here: Hiring spree brings new blood to American Airlines | The Star-Telegram

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Sat in the jumpseat about a month ago from MIA-LGA and the FO was a new hire Airbus guy. Great guy, former Marine TP f-18 pilot. I am glad some of those guys are making it over, because they deserve it. It's a great job with a lot of $$$ potential.