You mean that TA that PSA pilots reluctantly passed by 11% so they won't be shut down which had nothing to do with Envoy after saying no twice before and was punished for years? Phew what a run on sentence!

No where did I say I support PSA.. Just saying they offer more than TSA right now. (growth)

And both of your airlines are simply nothing but lousy paying regionals whom employ the lowest paid aviators. Nice accolade.

Just FYI, they threatened us (Envoy) with a shutdown every time we voted no. Imagine what the landscape would have looked like if PSA had some backbone.

Psa was at 49 aircraft at that time. That's an easy shutdown/ transfer if need be. Point taken as why PSA is getting 47 700's.


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Pay rates don't mean $hit. You wanna compare W2's? Cause I really doubt that PSA is anywhere near the bottom.

Is that why envoy voted in concessions twice out of four votes? Because you guys have backbones? Both times it passed by much higher margin must I add.

You mean the bankruptcy contract (still better than every other regional) and the one you forced them into? It's way different than voting in a below average contract knowing full well that it was worse than one a sister company voted down in exchange for growth that was promised that company.

I'd be happy to compare W-2s to any regional other than Envoy and XJT. I make more money to fly a 50 seat jet than every other 76+ seat carrier including the honorable PSA.

And don't forget that it took a bribe to the guys who were on their way out,....... to get concessions from the guys who were on their way in.

Doubtful, the company ran our CCP language as negotiated for a good portion of 2014. I can guarantee most captains at PSA made as much, or more money than any other regional out there, with more days off to boot.

As mentioned before, pay rates are only 50% of the equation.