Pretty sure its not plural anymore. Rest retired.
Line pilots didn't let anything slide. No vote was offered on any rumored agreement nor was anything written to my knowledge.

Ironically, your previous experience running your own companies matters little except for bragging rights around the proverbial water cooler to no one who cares (if you accept a position as a supervisor). You will most likely remain a supervisor for your entire career (actual numbers) but you will try to climb the corporate ladder competing against and with your fellow supervisors. None of whom want you to be the rare promotion to manager status. Don't let ego drive career decisions. My half penny. Cheers

There are two left actually. As to the second statement, I didn't realize that was the type of issue that gets voted on...Managers obviously crossed a picket line during the strike though, and none of the names show up on the master SCAB list...Tell me again how line pilots at the time didn't let this slide? Honest question...would appreciate an honest answer.

Is this what they do? Stroke someone's ego, telling them how very special they are, so that is why they would like them in "management"? And people get suckered into this, because pilots all have healthy egos and think we are awesome, because of x,y, and z, whatever we have in our background?

I ask the RJ captain, does it even make sense that they are soliciting you for management because you have run your own companies? When there are people out there with thousands of hours of international heavy experience, check airman, etc. Is it rational that they are soliciting you in particular, because of your awesome experience, or might people on this forum just be telling you the truth about how undesirable the position is? I think I would rather not fly at all, than be in a position where people despise me, mock me, and think of me as low as a scab.

Were his lips moving? I have spoken to many guys that lost their Airbus captains seats and will not go back after their experiences as commuters with the base line trips. One guy, living in the northeast said he was only getting home 5 or 6 days a month as most of the days off blocks weren't commutable.

There are about 2000 or so pilots here. Every January we each receive a letter inviting us to be "promoted" to management. No one bites on it so they hire rj guys off the street for those jobs. There are reasons why.

Lesson one, don't listen to a manager
Lesson two, don't become a manager. No one will listen to you

I see, so your very brief interaction with this super nice and oh so generous manager supersedes other pilots perceptions? You know, the ones who've been here for 15-25 years!?? You have no idea what you're talking about and I'm guessing you're already a scab/manager or a scab wannabell! Un-freaking-believable!

Take it easy on him, it really is difficult to comprehend the NURP-IPA system we have here without actually being part of it. I think the best way to describe the relationship is to point out the fact that in the history of the "airline" not one IPA CAPT has ever crossed over into management. Nuf Said!

See the other one. Both 88's. Pre IPA. UPS hired.

"Tell me again how line pilots at the time didn't let this slide? Honest question...would appreciate an honest answer"
Honest answer, (were you expecting something else?) have no idea. Never briefed, nothing in the record as far as I can tell. Guess we Teamster strike supporter types are slackers and bark like wild animals to much.

Was I expecting something else?....Hmmm...When you said "Line pilots didn't let anything slide." and now you say you have "no idea", yeah it does make me wonder sometimes. It's wonderful that you supported the Teamster strike...It's truly awful that you haven't put the names of known scabs from that strike on the scab list. Every other airline has managed it, so before you pat yourself on the back for supporting the brief '97 strike, maybe you should finish the job. Or is it just no big deal to you? If it is, why didn't you know exactly how many scabs are left at UPS? Why aren't the strikebreakers from '97 public knowledge?

5-6 days home would be a pretty extreme example with some circumstances not being brought up. 11/28 days off minimum per contract no???, and most BTLs average more than that on all fleets. FWIW, the bottom 5 guys on the bus this upcoming bid period got midnight to noon reserve in 5 day blocks which someone from Baltimore could easily Jumpseat on UPS both ways. Some of the base trips I would consider horrible for commuting went a ways up the list.

Don't forget, take a management job and there's now way you'll be committing from BWI. And you'll have 2500 of my brothers and sisters who are at the negotiation table right now asking what it will cost us to eliminate your position. As airline management likes to say: nothing personal, just business.