Organize a picket, strike committee, etc. you know, usual stuff that unions do when negotiations get prolonged with management not playing ball. See those little picket invitations you get in the email, that your Union asks you to participate in, but doesn't organize for themselves? That kind of stuff. MAGMEC is a mostly lifer company dudes or sympathizers looking out for themselves.

What he said. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Now prepare to get bashed by pilots who love our union...incoming!

I don't think you will see that much bashing. If you do get flak, they need to check themselves, and start working to the better good of the labor side of things.

The same method I am suggesting was utilized way back during the time of the last contract. The union told pilots not to actively pick up open time because it would encourage management to furlough.

In managements minds they were overstaffed and wanted cuts. (Bankruptcy early stages) and pre-PBS. Obviously some cuts were necessary due to the freedom debacle and shutdown. However as freedom was almost completely gone, the company used PBS and aggressive open time pickups as pure incentive to put what they deemed excess onto the street. This was the begining of the furloughs and the post bankruptcy backslide. It was really all for naught, however it could have bought a junior man a couple more months and a few more hours. Better yet a junior captain could have gotten a few more hours of PIC before downgrade.

Basically aggressive open time pickups mean to the company that you want to fly more and they are adequately staffed going forward. The company does not care about you or your aggressive desire to "get paid." It merely wants to tell big daddy UAL, and AAG that hey look at me I'm staffed and ready for more. Why even ask for more with regards to a contract when you all are clearly happy with what you got?

Oh, and what else should the union do? How 'bout give me my money back.

Funny enough, this is the industry standard response when someone says they work for Mesa. You hit that nail on the head!

I'm trying

If you didn't notice, we had a TA about 1 year ago. Know what that means? The company has already negotiated in good faith simply by the 'yes' vote of the previous NC. If you simply think that the MEC can even throw around suggestion of work actions, strike, etc then you don't know as much as you think about the RLA.

Ha the TA with concessions and no appreciable pay increases? In this environment? That the union tried to shove down our throat? Lol...yeah blame the RLA for the MAGMEC's failures to bring any sort of improvements to a pilot group in a time where literally every single other airline, to include Great Lakes, makes more than you and has seen improvements. You need to lay off the koolaid.

Oh and organizing picketing and a strike committee isn't exactly an illegal work action. It's showing the company you have unity, are serious, and will be ready in the event they don't negotiate a contract in line with the improvements the rest of the industry is seeing.

Dusty is leaving ... What? That guy is just professionally awesome. Probably Fedex or SWA.

You are seriously dense.

I didn't make one excuse for the MEC. I also never said the TA was good, or that it should have been sent for a pilot vote. What I AM saying that work actions would not be allowed any time soon.

What's the point of a strike committee if we wouldn't be legally allowed to strike for several years? Haven't you been here long enough to realize the company doesn't do anything until the last second, and when they absolutely have to? We're still completing enough flights, so they don't care.