Mesa 3.0
03-08-2018 | 10:51 AM
#5501
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Latest Letter
The letter by the COO was rather amusing, throwing the training department under the bus.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
03-08-2018 | 12:21 PM
#5502
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The letter by the COO was rather amusing, throwing the training department under the bus.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
03-08-2018 | 02:11 PM
#5503
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Earlier you mentioned morale. It's been low here for years but shouldn't have anything to do with jets being taken away. No plane is being taken away, and even if it were, the only thing that would change is our staffing/plane ratio would slightly improve. Your morale should have more to do with missing commutes and getting bombarded by calls from crew tracking every single day off followed up by performance/attendance emails from chief pilots right before going back to work your 98-hour, 11-day-off schedule at 5 in the morning.
03-08-2018 | 07:03 PM
#5504
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From: F0
The letter by the COO was rather amusing, throwing the training department under the bus.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
Can someone please post the letter?
03-08-2018 | 07:36 PM
#5505
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From: Freight 75/76 FO
You know it... in the mean time ATL will be used as a satellite base for the IAD E-Jet flying. Some people forget who they came to work for. I must say, all in all, I have enjoyed my time here, but you have to know what you are getting into...
03-09-2018 | 02:21 AM
#5506
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The letter by the COO was rather amusing, throwing the training department under the bus.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
But hey look .. we've got 275 pilots in training! We just don't know where any of them are .. witness the recent survey required of those in training, or thought to be.
They literally lost track of everyone who is here and in the pipeline somehow.
Results are what matters. The training department, particularly on the Ejet side, is a fail. He acknowledged that fact. So what?
If Mesa pays instructors properly, looks for good instructors we can retain, thinks about instructor QOL, shortens the new hire Ejet training footprint back to something reasonable (say 5’to 6 months), he will earn my respect.
The problem is we have 6 Ejets sitting, an unhappy partner, and a competitor moving into IAH. Despite everything I hear from the union and management, I cannot believe we are “meeting” the contract with 6 Ejets sitting during Spring Break unless Mesa has a side agreement to give these 6 Ejets back to United.
It would take an idiot to jump ship from Mesa to Republic if they are already on the line. A 5+ year upgrade in IAH; what a joke. And, unless a new hire was in SIMs or IOE already, they must be desperate to stay. But, the pool of pilots considering Mesa, unless they are desperate or live in IAH or ATL, just got a lot smaller.
03-09-2018 | 05:22 AM
#5507
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From: CRJ FO
I was okay with the email. Words are cheap and are intended for an audience. Who knows who the audience is? JO? United?
Results are what matters. The training department, particularly on the Ejet side, is a fail. He acknowledged that fact. So what?
If Mesa pays instructors properly, looks for good instructors we can retain, thinks about instructor QOL, shortens the new hire Ejet training footprint back to something reasonable (say 5’to 6 months), he will earn my respect.
The problem is we have 6 Ejets sitting, an unhappy partner, and a competitor moving into IAH. Despite everything I hear from the union and management, I cannot believe we are “meeting” the contract with 6 Ejets sitting during Spring Break unless Mesa has a side agreement to give these 6 Ejets back to United.
It would take an idiot to jump ship from Mesa to Republic if they are already on the line. A 5+ year upgrade in IAH; what a joke. And, unless a new hire was in SIMs or IOE already, they must be desperate to stay. But, the pool of pilots considering Mesa, unless they are desperate or live in IAH or ATL, just got a lot smaller.
Results are what matters. The training department, particularly on the Ejet side, is a fail. He acknowledged that fact. So what?
If Mesa pays instructors properly, looks for good instructors we can retain, thinks about instructor QOL, shortens the new hire Ejet training footprint back to something reasonable (say 5’to 6 months), he will earn my respect.
The problem is we have 6 Ejets sitting, an unhappy partner, and a competitor moving into IAH. Despite everything I hear from the union and management, I cannot believe we are “meeting” the contract with 6 Ejets sitting during Spring Break unless Mesa has a side agreement to give these 6 Ejets back to United.
It would take an idiot to jump ship from Mesa to Republic if they are already on the line. A 5+ year upgrade in IAH; what a joke. And, unless a new hire was in SIMs or IOE already, they must be desperate to stay. But, the pool of pilots considering Mesa, unless they are desperate or live in IAH or ATL, just got a lot smaller.
03-09-2018 | 05:29 AM
#5508
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Assuming we lose CA’s as we have been, it should shorten fairly quickly. All a pilot here needs to do is monitor the upgrades, get their 1,000 hours right seat, and go to the left seat at Envoy in LGA if Mesa has trouble. The market is too good to not stay put until you can make a move to a different regional where it is to your advantage. And, when Envoy stops hiring street CA’s, there will be someone else to take their place....
03-09-2018 | 07:35 PM
#5510
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From: Couch FO
The current captains are more junior than 24 months. I am pointing to the March award and its timeframe for upgrades.
In a few months, what FO is really going to care if a junior CA was awarded at 23 or 24 months, if the upgrades disappear or slow down significantly?
The rumors out there of losing ships are killing morale. FO’s are looking to jump ship to Republic for IAH - even though Republic’s upgrades in IAH are 5+ years. The 5+ years made the decision for me and I am not even considering Republic any longer. I will sink or swim here until I have my 1,000 121 time.
In a few months, what FO is really going to care if a junior CA was awarded at 23 or 24 months, if the upgrades disappear or slow down significantly?
The rumors out there of losing ships are killing morale. FO’s are looking to jump ship to Republic for IAH - even though Republic’s upgrades in IAH are 5+ years. The 5+ years made the decision for me and I am not even considering Republic any longer. I will sink or swim here until I have my 1,000 121 time.
So upgrade fluctuates just depends on who is coming out of the woodwork and are having an epiphany of capt itis lol 
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