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Originally Posted by Screwed
Yes we are still at Atlas. But 75% of us are trying to get better jobs! I guess we are not super pilots like you because WE actually have to wait to be offered an interview at somewhere better. We don't have the ability to just wish for a better job and POOF ! It appears. It takes work and time.
No one is misleading new hires. Atlas/Southern sucks. That is why 10-25 pilots leave every month and it amounts to a few hundred who have left over the last several years.
And I notice you have a whopping 3 posts and have just joined APC!
WHAT ARE THE ODDS YOU ARE A MANAGEMENT TROLL? 100%?
Please tell us with all your experience why Atlas is such a good place to work right now!
Just throwing around random statistics eh? How do you quantify your "75%" of us comment? Where did you get that? LOL.
But seriously, who really cares how many posts a guy has before he makes his observation about those that seem to have disingenuous motives? The reality is that there are numbers of us that are actively leaving for whatever reason and numbers of us that are staying for whatever reason but it is almost impossible to break that down into specific categories, with the exception of mandatory retirements.
There is a political component to contract negotiations and comments made in favor of or against a position is most certainly going to draw criticism especially from those that are perceived to have the most to lose. So if somebody makes a comment against the current trend to drive attrition, as in the case above, why should those that are screaming that "Atlas sucks" and "75% of us are trying to get better jobs" even care if you will eventually will be gone? This is point that the OP was making; It is contradictory to be claiming that one is trying to leave at the earliest possible moment followed by making statements that we won't have a contract for "at least a few years" but I want to make it better for those that remain while I am still here! Pilots generally are not virtuous when it comes to contract talks. We are selfish when it comes to money and our careers. Furthermore, it would seem most certain that if one is trying to "get out fast", it is very feasible to assume that if Allegiant or Omni or Kalitta who by admission here on this thread alone are "better" than Atlas, where it wouldn't take long at all to get hired and probably much sooner than we'd get a contract here at Atlas, especially in this environment, it is safe to assume it is because you have to stay or want to stay. Therefore, you have joined the political hardliners during these negotiations and anyone that is not following in that fight in your opinion is a management troll. That is all that the OP was observing. So why dump on the guy just because he only has 3 posts? It just dilutes your credibility.