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Old 05-25-2017, 10:55 AM
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"Soft Landing" is the disposal plan for both divisions of XJT in 2018.
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Old 05-25-2017, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider View Post
Does anyone find it coincidence all the rumors of 4 new bases just before this? Tiny raise but in exchange some of you could maybe live in base ...someday
No coincidence at all. Same with the rumors of more aircraft. All out of the management playbook. It happens every time.


The only thing we need to hear now is if we don't take this pay package we will shrink.
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Old 05-25-2017, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam View Post
"Soft Landing" is the disposal plan for both divisions of XJT in 2018.
Yuuuuuup. Nailed it. Not merging seniority lists or getting ALPA. So this is the "compromise"
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Old 05-25-2017, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
How are you guys assuming it's a tiny raise? We literally have heard nothing and people keep making these assumptions. Why would sapa vote 18-1 on a tiny raise?

I just don't understand people that keep saying "this is crap" when the email literally said no details at all.....

And I understand history repeats itself but people already have pitchforks armed and fires started!!! Why are people arguing and getting frustrated over rumors and a vaguely written email...nothing to talk about. They shouldn't even have sent the email.
LOL. You must be new.
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Old 05-25-2017, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by prc4prc View Post
Curious if you live in a domicile why would rank and file trade pay for more flying? We already have more flying than we can cover... ie, never enough reserves to drop trips. Wouldn't more flying make this worse. And where would the aircrafts come from? The desert? Oh boy!

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Smart people would not trade pay for flying no matter where they lived, but we're talking about pilots.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by word302 View Post
LOL. You must be new.
LOL.

So, anyways, where is your guys evidence it's a 1% contract? History is all you got?

Why is there even a thread? We literally have nothing to talk about except argue what it could be....but I'm sorry I have to be here for a set amount of years to respond.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
LOL.

So, anyways, where is your guys evidence it's a 1% contract? History is all you got?
History has a tendency to repeat itself.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
LOL.

So, anyways, where is your guys evidence it's a 1% contract? History is all you got?

Why is there even a thread? We literally have nothing to talk about except argue what it could be....but I'm sorry I have to be here for a set amount of years to respond.
SkyW simply does not make the money to make it rain.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.

Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
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Old 05-25-2017, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk21 View Post
History has a tendency to repeat itself.
I understand that so why don't we wait until we see if still does to get upset?
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Old 05-25-2017, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies View Post
SkyW simply does not make the money to make it rain.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.

Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
Thanks for a real answer!
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