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Old 09-20-2017, 12:51 PM
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The info that I was stating was about my friend who just completed training with OO, not me. He also mentioned that he has a friend at mesa and they also have quality inhouse training.

No failures for anyone they just felt that it was refreshing to have a training program at skywest that actually tries to teach rather then just read out massive information and you learn on your own. Having a initial good ground and sim instructor makes a huge difference in the success rate of passing initial training
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The info that I was stating was about my friend who just completed training with OO, not me. He also mentioned that he has a friend at mesa and they also have quality inhouse training.

No failures for anyone they just felt that it was refreshing to have a training program at skywest that actually tries to teach rather then just read out massive information and you learn on your own. Having a initial good ground and sim instructor makes a huge difference in the success rate of passing initial training
Ah your friend then. Honestly I think that most AQP airlines are the same. They all have the same program approved by the feds. I know the people struggle with the training program at CPZ because it was a refugee airline and it's tailored for guys with previous 121 time. 1500 CFIs often struggle with it and I will admit that it needs improvement because we are no longer getting ex-121 guys.
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As long as its “in house” line pilots doing FTD/SIM. Heard airlines that outsource that the quality goes down...
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SkyWest's training is so awesome some newhires need as much as 100 hours to get through IOE!
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SkyWest's training is so awesome some newhires need as much as 100 hours to get through IOE!
Thats just a few a year... under 5 people.. out of 800+ hired thats a very small percentage...
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Thats just a few a year... under 5 people.. out of 800+ hired thats a very small percentage...
I can say without a doubt Skywest training is better than Uniteds training. Granted everyone there had a lot of experience, but military guys with no prior 121 had a really rough time getting through it at times. It's more of a "here's your cbt, come back in a week and we will take a test" kind of training.
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The training materials are good - better than Delta's according to a friend there.

The long breaks in the middle of sim training, before IOE, and even during IOE set students up for failure according to the LCA's and other pilot friends. That's been the biggest disappointment.

There are some good instructors and some really bad ones at Skywest. Unfortunately there's no mechanism for identifying the bad ones. Many instructors do not differentiate between sim partners so if you have a bad partner then you are screwed.

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[QUOTE=DLocked;2435175]The training materials are good - better than Delta's according to a friend there.

The long breaks in the middle of sim training, before IOE, and even during IOE set students up for failure according to the LCA's and other pilot friends. That's been the biggest disappointment.



-most of us had a month wait for ioe. study EVERYTHING, and ask your lca questions when you show up. call him/her the night before you start your ioe trip to introduce yourself and clear any questions up. that sets the tone for how things are going to go. if people aren't studying and sit around for a month doing nothing and fail their line check or need extra ioe because of it, that's their own fault.
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The training materials are good - better than Delta's according to a friend there.

The long breaks in the middle of sim training, before IOE, and even during IOE set students up for failure according to the LCA's and other pilot friends. That's been the biggest disappointment.



-most of us had a month wait for ioe. study EVERYTHING, and ask your lca questions when you show up. call him/her the night before you start your ioe trip to introduce yourself and clear any questions up. that sets the tone for how things are going to go. if people aren't studying and sit around for a month doing nothing and fail their line check or need extra ioe because of it, that's their own fault.
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Heard they are "tweaking" the ground/sim training. More loft style training... (line oriented flight training)

Yep, reducing ground school by a third of the time. Very little systems training and going to scenario type training.


Because the average pilot is coming with lots more time, experience, and real life emergency experiences. (tons of sarcasm)


But it's true, big reduction in the training footprint with lots of shift to self training via cbt's.

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