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Old 10-22-2017, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800 View Post
"I know enough about airline training to make an assertion that this one place has the BEST training in the regional industry."



"What is CBT?"





Dude.
This. You can't make this stuff up. I swear this thread is an embarrassment to OO. I can just imagine all the eye rolling as OAL guys scroll past it.

OP...OAL stands for Other Airline.
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:32 PM
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A FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of mine who just completed training at skywest just TOLD ME how great the training program is at skywest. They really work with you and want to help you as long as you have a good attitude and try to work hard.

Skywest will give you extra sim lessons if needed and also extra IOE if needed and even in initial ground if one fails indoc, systems, or oral they will help you pass.

Even though skywest doesn't pay that much and they don't have a union and starting pay is not 41/hr and no bonus at least they provide quality training and make a new hire a competent line pilot.


Peepee2800 get a life dude!!!!
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I went through initial (CRJ) in May and found it was 'okay' (had to drink a LOT of kool aid). I think we were the first group that had to use the "Matrix" to learn flows, etc., instead of a proper sim or procedures trainer; it - the Matrix - was a waste of time IMO. We also got less sim time than previous groups (according to our sim instructor).
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Training termination is less then 1% I'm told... and i just saw a guy that that happened to. He’s back. He went to Mesa for 9 months. Got some experience and he’s back flying at SkyWest..
So he got to cruise above FL370?
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Originally Posted by friend View Post
pete2800:

A FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of mine who just completed training at skywest just TOLD ME how great the training program is at skywest. They really work with you and want to help you as long as you have a good attitude and try to work hard.

Skywest will give you extra sim lessons if needed and also extra IOE if needed and even in initial ground if one fails indoc, systems, or oral they will help you pass.

Even though skywest doesn't pay that much and they don't have a union and starting pay is not 41/hr and no bonus at least they provide quality training and make a new hire a competent line pilot.


Peepee2800 get a life dude!!!!
Dude, you literally just copied and pasted your intial post word for word.
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Originally Posted by Aurora8 View Post
I went through initial (CRJ) in May and found it was 'okay' (had to drink a LOT of kool aid). I think we were the first group that had to use the "Matrix" to learn flows, etc., instead of a proper sim or procedures trainer; it - the Matrix - was a waste of time IMO. We also got less sim time than previous groups (according to our sim instructor).
FTD/sim has always been too valuable for something like flows. Flow validation has been on the matrix for years.

Matrix has advantages over the paper tiger but definitely has its limits.
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Originally Posted by Aurora8 View Post
I went through initial (CRJ) in May and found it was 'okay' (had to drink a LOT of kool aid). I think we were the first group that had to use the "Matrix" to learn flows, etc., instead of a proper sim or procedures trainer; it - the Matrix - was a waste of time IMO. We also got less sim time than previous groups (according to our sim instructor).
Nobody uses a sim for flows, waaaay too expensive. When I started it was posters taped to the wall, then cardboard mockups. The matrix came later, and is nice because it shows you how the systems respond.
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As others have said, whoever told you flows used to be done in the sim is misinformed or you misunderstood them. Flows have always been done on the paper tiger, and more recently (the last few years) on the matrix.
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Originally Posted by friend View Post
pete2800:

A FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of mine who just completed training at skywest just TOLD ME how great the training program is at skywest. They really work with you and want to help you as long as you have a good attitude and try to work hard.

Skywest will give you extra sim lessons if needed and also extra IOE if needed and even in initial ground if one fails indoc, systems, or oral they will help you pass.

Even though skywest doesn't pay that much and they don't have a union and starting pay is not 41/hr and no bonus at least they provide quality training and make a new hire a competent line pilot.


Peepee2800 get a life dude!!!!
Then let your friend post, rookie.

How many other airlines has your 'friend' received training at?
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight View Post
As others have said, whoever told you flows used to be done in the sim is misinformed or you misunderstood them. Flows have always been done on the paper tiger, and more recently (the last few years) on the matrix.
I should've been clearer: our first 4 days at Flight Safety were in an upgraded, 'fancy' version of the Matrix actually 'flying' - not doing flows; was that always the case? And we were told we were doing less actual sim sessions than previous classes...
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