Reserve Time
#11
Wake me up on descent..
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 35
So seriously, in this environment, are your junior people - the ones actually sitting reserve because they don't have enough seniority to hold a line - going to stay? It would seem like they would have relatively little to lose by taking their type ratings and the 121 hours they already have accumulated and putting applications out to other regionals with better QOL. Or are they encumbered by some sort of training contract?
maybe they live in base, and would have to commute
at a different regional?
These new reserve rules came into play after I became a
lineholder as an FO. It's unfortunate that these rules are
what's going to dictate when I choose to upgrade.
If I do end up staying here, I'm definitely going to hold off
on the upgrade until I can hold a line as a CA.
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 200
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#14
On Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks for the info. It really does sound like the reserve rules suck for commuters. I guess the name of the game would be to get off reserve asap. What are you guys seeing for time on reserve in ORD, MSP, and DEN? I am a mid westerner so those would be my top 3.
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 203
Deadhead pay is 100%
Cancellation pay is 100%
Premium pay referring to “overtime” had kind of gone away with this embarassing new reserve rule as well. It used to be that an open time trip 72 hours before it started would pay 150% but now it just pays normal 90% of the time.
I would also highly encourage you to never pick up company open time and instead look at crew member posted trips of you really feel the need to work more.
Reserve aside, this place is truly is bad shape. You’d be smart to steer clear of here. 3 months in a row now I have been awarded >95hrs of flying.. for CFIs and others out there, I know that sounds exciting, but it’s not. Trust me. The pay here is industry trailing. Upgrades have even been slowed down quite a bit because we don’t have enough FOs.
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#17
On Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks for the detailed info. Unfortunately if I went by what I have read on APC forums I would never even consider this a career. This is supposed to be a great time to get into the airlines but every company forum I go to sounds like it is “the worst” regional out there. I get it, regionals suck in general but I am willing to suck for a couple years to earn my way. I am a 15 year guard guy with two deployments and probably one more. I can’t think of anything sucking more than being stuck where I am and away from my family for a year straight. Just my thoughts. I do appreciate all the feed back.
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: I pilot
Posts: 2,049
Thanks for the detailed info. Unfortunately if I went by what I have read on APC forums I would never even consider this a career. This is supposed to be a great time to get into the airlines but every company forum I go to sounds like it is “the worst” regional out there. I get it, regionals suck in general but I am willing to suck for a couple years to earn my way. I am a 15 year guard guy with two deployments and probably one more. I can’t think of anything sucking more than being stuck where I am and away from my family for a year straight. Just my thoughts. I do appreciate all the feed back.
#19
No contract. I'm not sure what's holding them back;
maybe they live in base, and would have to commute
at a different regional?
These new reserve rules came into play after I became a
lineholder as an FO. It's unfortunate that these rules are
what's going to dictate when I choose to upgrade.
If I do end up staying here, I'm definitely going to hold off
on the upgrade until I can hold a line as a CA.
maybe they live in base, and would have to commute
at a different regional?
These new reserve rules came into play after I became a
lineholder as an FO. It's unfortunate that these rules are
what's going to dictate when I choose to upgrade.
If I do end up staying here, I'm definitely going to hold off
on the upgrade until I can hold a line as a CA.
But ignoring aspects like wanting to live in a particular base or get a tuition reimbursement, I can't help but think they all go there (and put up with everything) simply because they don't know any better. If you don't know anyone who has worked there for more than a year or two, and you don't read forums like this (with a grain of salt, of course), and you don't compare QOL at all other carriers, they have nothing to compare it to. They get assigned ORD and hope to get SLC some day, they just slough through reserve and everything else, because this is their first real job.
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 117
I hate to say it but our "student council" was simply asleep at the wheel. There is a lot of maneuvering going on right now where people responsible for this debacle are coming up with some lame excuses. Bottom line - they screwed up - full stop.
And unfortunately, there really seems to be no going back.
And unfortunately, there really seems to be no going back.
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