Uh oh
05-23-2018, 12:17 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by rickair7777
I can't recall if ASAP is available with bent metal?
In this case the FO probably doesn't have to even bother... it's self-evident.
In this case the FO probably doesn't have to even bother... it's self-evident.
05-23-2018, 01:30 PM
#13
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 142
Originally Posted by CBreezy
ASAP is available for everything but intentional disregard for safety and medically related events. Now, it isn't a guarantee that the company can't come for you or from being classified as a "incident," but it should protect you from certificate action.
05-23-2018, 01:33 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,293
Originally Posted by trip
The new coined term is "intentional non-compliance" EX. violate sterile <18K, = >intentional non-compliance.
Yes sterile violations are considered intentional and not protected.
I would also not bet on asap for any devation which occurred during or near a sterile violation, they might conclude that the sterile was a distraction which led to the other issue. Hopefully the crew in BUR was not shooting the breeze when the clipped UAL...
05-23-2018, 02:12 PM
#15
Part of the problem
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: CRJ200 CA
Posts: 577
Originally Posted by trip
To be fair they both look like they're on the yellow line, but yeah that corner was cramped when it was 50's in there. The CA is hosed.
Related- was talking with an ASAP guy and he said 9/10 times the F/O throws the CA under the bus in their report!
Related- was talking with an ASAP guy and he said 9/10 times the F/O throws the CA under the bus in their report!
We hit things.
It happens.
05-23-2018, 04:44 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 803
Originally Posted by Flogger
Captain not hosed unless he was blatantly violating a policy, even then, if he doesn't lie, pee funny or have a CVR which says he was bragging about nailing the FA, well he he should be fine.
We hit things.
It happens.
We hit things.
It happens.
No koolaid, out spoken about policies or procedures, ALPA committee driver, ASAP writer about safety concerns, Fired!
05-23-2018, 04:49 PM
#18
Part of the problem
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: CRJ200 CA
Posts: 577
Originally Posted by Check Complete
It depends, if management likes him, good company guy, cheerleader, Koolaid drinker, nothing will happen.
No koolaid, out spoken about policies or procedures, ALPA committee driver, ASAP writer about safety concerns, Fired!
No koolaid, out spoken about policies or procedures, ALPA committee driver, ASAP writer about safety concerns, Fired!
