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Old 09-05-2018, 12:53 PM
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If the MEC’s at the ALPA majors would make it known that they would prefer to hire from ALPA regionals it would pass very fast. There is so much fake union news at skywest it’s unbelievable. Pilots go on a 30 minute rant of never ALPA and then they finish with I’ve got apps in at all the majors. Be sure to tell them at your interview how you despise unions...
Most or all of the interview panel would be cool with that...

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This is not JA company anymore and it is run just like a union carrier with none of the contract protections. TFAYD
No it's not.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:13 PM
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Most or all of the interview panel would be cool with that...
ALPA is a big part of the interview process at UAL and DAL. Not sure on the other carriers, but I'd imagine the same. Beyond all that, you should never be negative in the interview anyways.

Also...bring JA back.
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[QUOTE=rickair7777;2668898]Most or all of the interview panel would be cool with that...


The pilots I know that are on interview boards would definitely not be ok with that.
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Most or all of the interview panel would be cool with that...


The pilots I know that are on interview boards would definitely not be ok with that.
But pilots no longer control hiring at most airlines.

I'm not advocating an anti union stance as an interview tactic.
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Most or all of the interview panel would be cool with that...
Not at UAL. The pilots still play a big role in the interview process and all wear their Alpa pin.
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Not at UAL. The pilots still play a big role in the interview process and all wear their Alpa pin.
getting your app pulled for an interview is all HR though these days
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:22 PM
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If the MEC’s at the ALPA majors would make it known that they would prefer to hire from ALPA regionals it would pass very fast. There is so much fake union news at skywest it’s unbelievable. Pilots go on a 30 minute rant of never ALPA and then they finish with I’ve got apps in at all the majors. Be sure to tell them at your interview how you despise unions...



This is not JA company anymore and it is run just like a union carrier with none of the contract protections. TFAYD

I agree with that. Delta used some of their negotiating capital to require management to hire at least 25% ALPA pilots. If MECs all negotiated that all pilots have to be union or ex-military, that would do it. But it’s hard to convince an MEC to use their negotiating capital on that type of intangible issue versus higher pay rates, better scope, increasing retirement or benefit value, work rules, etc.
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Old 09-06-2018, 01:07 PM
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I agree with that. Delta used some of their negotiating capital to require management to hire at least 25% ALPA pilots. If MECs all negotiated that all pilots have to be union or ex-military, that would do it. But it’s hard to convince an MEC to use their negotiating capital on that type of intangible issue versus higher pay rates, better scope, increasing retirement or benefit value, work rules, etc.
It could pay off but it would be a long game, and chess not checkers...

1) Require significant hiring preference for ALPA members.
2) That would incentivize entry-level pilots to work for ALPA companies (and OO to unionize).
3) If all regionals were under ALPA, then ALPA might be able to corral them and stop the whipsaw, while managing scope issues.

I say ALPA because I don't think a hodge-podge of different unions would get around to #3.

That might be better for everyone long-term. But odds are low of that ever happening, many mainline folks (somewhat understandably after years of dues paying) just want cash on the barrel-head.
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First rejecting the TA, now this. CC won't be very happy with you.
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Can someone please explain in plain English what is happening here? Are we getting a union? Thanks
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