Voting yes or no?
10-12-2018 | 05:54 PM
#72
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This is exactly what the endeavor mec said to us just vote yes because the pay is right and we can fix the other issues later in different LOA’s and it’s been radio silence ever since on a lot of key issues that people really need addressed to impove QOL and keep more of that money that they gave us in the raises in our pockets. I’m just an outsider and take my opinion for what you see it’s worth but your out nothing by waiting and trying to solve some more key issues you have.
10-12-2018 | 07:36 PM
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10-14-2018 | 01:15 PM
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I personally can’t understand the people who are topped out on the pay scale being so against it on the account of inflation.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
10-14-2018 | 02:14 PM
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From: RJ Captain
I personally can’t understand the people who are topped out on the pay scale being so against it on the account of inflation.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
Do you think the 1.5% in 2020 and the 1% in 2021 and 2022, will keep up with inflation. Do you even know what inflation has run over the past decade or two, or what the Fed target is?
I believe our top 50 seat rate at the end of 2001 was $92 an hour. Do you have any idea what you would need to make now to have the same purchasing power? $131 an hour.
I'd happily accept a pay package tied to the government reported inflation rate. It runs 2% a year.
In four years when this pay package expires someone topped out will have less purchasing power than they have today.
And for those topped out it's not even a 3% increase. Less than 2 1/2.
Not that you give a **** about any of that, or can probably understand it.
10-14-2018 | 03:01 PM
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I personally can’t understand the people who are topped out on the pay scale being so against it on the account of inflation.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
For the sake of all of mankind, please don't have a family......
10-14-2018 | 03:23 PM
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I don't think you have any idea how inflation works.
Do you think the 1.5% in 2020 and the 1% in 2021 and 2022, will keep up with inflation. Do you even know what inflation has run over the past decade or two, or what the Fed target is?
I believe our top 50 seat rate at the end of 2001 was $92 an hour. Do you have any idea what you would need to make now to have the same purchasing power? $131 an hour.
I'd happily accept a pay package tied to the government reported inflation rate. It runs 2% a year.
In four years when this pay package expires someone topped out will have less purchasing power than they have today.
And for those topped out it's not even a 3% increase. Less than 2 1/2.
Not that you give a **** about any of that, or can probably understand it.
Do you think the 1.5% in 2020 and the 1% in 2021 and 2022, will keep up with inflation. Do you even know what inflation has run over the past decade or two, or what the Fed target is?
I believe our top 50 seat rate at the end of 2001 was $92 an hour. Do you have any idea what you would need to make now to have the same purchasing power? $131 an hour.
I'd happily accept a pay package tied to the government reported inflation rate. It runs 2% a year.
In four years when this pay package expires someone topped out will have less purchasing power than they have today.
And for those topped out it's not even a 3% increase. Less than 2 1/2.
Not that you give a **** about any of that, or can probably understand it.
So now that I’ve gotten you angry and your math is wrong, what did you think was going to happen in regard to inflation when you got to year 21 on a 20 year pay scale as you spent those two decades climbing it? You wanna talk smarts?
Did you have these current bonuses, work rules, qol & 401k in 2001? Total comp for a 20 year guy is on pace with YOUR provided numbers.
Haha
10-14-2018 | 04:03 PM
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From: RJ Captain
Only an idiot would compare our current rates with the proposed rates and not take into account the pay rates that would/will happen on Jan 1 2019. The difference is less than $3 an hour from what we are already scheduled to get for someone topped out in either aircraft.
You really think the annual step increase is suppose to account for inflation. Wrong.
Why do you think all of the other airlines get 3% a year or so on January 1st.
You really think the annual step increase is suppose to account for inflation. Wrong.
Why do you think all of the other airlines get 3% a year or so on January 1st.
10-14-2018 | 07:19 PM
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I personally can’t understand the people who are topped out on the pay scale being so against it on the account of inflation.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
It is like they don’t really understand that a 20 year scale stops at 20 years. I would jump at the 3% bump offered.
I also have a hard time understanding the FOs voting no to 30% raise.
We are in a bubble.
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