Alpa drive?
01-24-2019, 12:09 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Ok, I’ll go with that. Have you ever replaced something that wasn’t broken? Sometimes things might work for what you needed in the past but you replace anyway for something that works better for the future. It’s called obsolescence. It seems line sapa has long reached that point.
01-24-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
They have...
01-25-2019, 06:53 AM
#83
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What happened in SAPA anyway? That was kind of a weird development, you could almost make the case that it planned and executed that way so as to keep any outsider from getting in? Too much black helicopter?
01-25-2019, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
What happened in SAPA anyway? That was kind of a weird development, you could almost make the case that it planned and executed that way so as to keep any outsider from getting in? Too much black helicopter?
Remember, just because you’re actually paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you...in the interim, my tinfoil hat-making skills remain sharp.
01-25-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
No
I haven’t been tasked by anyone to do anything concerning Skywest or ALPA for that matter. I simply believe that Skywest being ALPA will help Skywest pilots and the piloting profession. And I truly believe that the best thing about ALPA is their safety, security, and pilot assistance advocacy. Which is why I’ve posted these ALPA updates that show some of the things ALPA pilots do on behalf of safety, security, and pilot assistance. All pilots have benefitted from what ALPA has done in safety advocacy. It would be great to get the talent that is within the Skywest pilot group to help out with safety, security, and pilot assistance.
I’m no longer at xjt. I’ve been gone for more than a year. I’m over at Fedex now. And when I was at xjt, I was only a rep for about 18 months in 2007-2008 timeframe.
I haven’t been tasked by anyone to do anything concerning Skywest or ALPA for that matter. I simply believe that Skywest being ALPA will help Skywest pilots and the piloting profession. And I truly believe that the best thing about ALPA is their safety, security, and pilot assistance advocacy. Which is why I’ve posted these ALPA updates that show some of the things ALPA pilots do on behalf of safety, security, and pilot assistance. All pilots have benefitted from what ALPA has done in safety advocacy. It would be great to get the talent that is within the Skywest pilot group to help out with safety, security, and pilot assistance.
I’m no longer at xjt. I’ve been gone for more than a year. I’m over at Fedex now. And when I was at xjt, I was only a rep for about 18 months in 2007-2008 timeframe.
01-25-2019, 11:04 AM
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Maybe the so called "Putz" would like to inspire nearly 5000 pilots to contribute to the profession rather than ride the coat tails of other pilots efforts. Gain some meaningful elements of a real contract and some true protections from management.
SAPA has lost a lot of ground in the last few years and still lacks any meaningful protection for it's pilots. Hopefully the new SAPA president can get back some of which we have lost but by design our (mis)representation is beholden to management and they only give what they want. Not for lack of trying but the company holds the leash.
SAPA has lost a lot of ground in the last few years and still lacks any meaningful protection for it's pilots. Hopefully the new SAPA president can get back some of which we have lost but by design our (mis)representation is beholden to management and they only give what they want. Not for lack of trying but the company holds the leash.
01-25-2019, 11:07 AM
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Alpa drive?
Originally Posted by JustSomePlt
Come on now “Putz”, why are you always sticking your nose in other people’s business?
I’ve already explained. I do feel it’s my business. Like I said, I believe that there is a lot of talent within the Skywest pilot ranks that would contribute to the safety and security of the piloting profession if they were ALPA. This is precisely why I’ve been posting some of what ALPA does in safety/security. Pooling our resources would help. It’s not just Skywest, I feel the same way about AAL, SWA, UPS, etc. The only reason why we are not already all pulling in the same direction is probably because of some lame man-made (political) perception that hinders people working together.
01-25-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Maybe the so called "Putz" would like to inspire nearly 5000 pilots to contribute to the profession rather than ride the coat tails of other pilots efforts. Gain some meaningful elements of a real contract and some true protections from management.
SAPA has lost a lot of ground in the last few years and still lacks any meaningful protection for it's pilots. Hopefully the new SAPA president can get back some of which we have lost but by design our (mis)representation is beholden to management and they only give what they want. Not for lack of trying but the company holds the leash.
SAPA has lost a lot of ground in the last few years and still lacks any meaningful protection for it's pilots. Hopefully the new SAPA president can get back some of which we have lost but by design our (mis)representation is beholden to management and they only give what they want. Not for lack of trying but the company holds the leash.
I often fly with the "I hate unions/I'm not paying dues for something I don't need" folks...I wonder how fast that attitude would change when they are on the other end of disciplinary action or possible termination and only have some line pilots politely asking the company to be nice?
01-25-2019, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thaddiusMbuggs
Given the size and scope of the airline now (5000 pilots, around 450 airplanes, 20 domiciles) it truly boggles the mind we don't have proper representation. I have no doubt the SAPA reps do their best and are mostly a great bunch of guys but even a blind man can see the time has arrived for proper representation.
I often fly with the "I hate unions/I'm not paying dues for something I don't need" folks...I wonder how fast that attitude would change when they are on the other end of disciplinary action or possible termination and only have some line pilots politely asking the company to be nice?
I often fly with the "I hate unions/I'm not paying dues for something I don't need" folks...I wonder how fast that attitude would change when they are on the other end of disciplinary action or possible termination and only have some line pilots politely asking the company to be nice?
01-25-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JustSomePlt
Come on now “Putz”, why are you always sticking your nose in other people’s business?
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