Skywest or Envoy?
01-06-2019, 11:32 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Envoy isn’t bad on reserve if you live in base. They make more and have a lot more choices for bases.
Take the SKW rates and subtract 5 to 7% due to the credit or better pay instead of the industry norm of block or better. Historical credit is controlled solely by the company. Our work rules are substandard and basically a pattern bargin element 2 to 5 years after the rest of the industry.
Your going to get LGA, DTW, MSP, or ORD out of training, the good domiciles take a while. If somebody says the got SLC or SFOout of training , they are super lucky.
Choose wisely, even now you will be in the regional hell for 2 to 5 years.
01-06-2019, 12:43 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Your going to get LGA, DTW, MSP, or ORD out of training, the good domiciles take a while. If somebody says the got SLC or SFOout of training , they are super lucky.
There’s always Fresno!
01-08-2019, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Take the SKW rates and subtract 5 to 7% due to the credit or better pay instead of the industry norm of block or better. Historical credit is controlled solely by the company.
Originally Posted by Check Complete
Our work rules are substandard
My point to everyone is this: As much as pilots (including myself) love to complain, it's easy for us to make the case that we work at the worst hell hole on earth.
Be wary of the bold statements.
01-08-2019, 02:45 PM
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Go into open time and find as many trips as you can without a DH or stand up, there's your -5 to 7%, but that's also the percentage one of the SAPA number guru's came up with.
Find out how many ALPA carriers have fired pilots for flying mistakes. If it's as many as SKW, I'll let it go. Don't tell me that we have anything more than what was bargained for at other airlines. We are always behind the curve and with the industry lagging pay scales approved you can expect it to be that way for years.
The truth.....
Find out how many ALPA carriers have fired pilots for flying mistakes. If it's as many as SKW, I'll let it go. Don't tell me that we have anything more than what was bargained for at other airlines. We are always behind the curve and with the industry lagging pay scales approved you can expect it to be that way for years.
The truth.....
01-08-2019, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Go into open time and find as many trips as you can without a DH or stand up, there's your -5 to 7%, but that's also the percentage one of the SAPA number guru's came up with.
Find out how many ALPA carriers have fired pilots for flying mistakes. If it's as many as SKW, I'll let it go. Don't tell me that we have anything more than what was bargained for at other airlines. We are always behind the curve and with the industry lagging pay scales approved you can expect it to be that way for years.
The truth.....
Find out how many ALPA carriers have fired pilots for flying mistakes. If it's as many as SKW, I'll let it go. Don't tell me that we have anything more than what was bargained for at other airlines. We are always behind the curve and with the industry lagging pay scales approved you can expect it to be that way for years.
The truth.....
01-08-2019, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
The sale of XJT to UAL will begin the long slow painful decline of SKYW... Avoid at all cost.
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