Skywest or Envoy?
#41
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Holy crap. Why are you so bitter? There is no way the company has screwed you nearly as badly as your attitude makes it seem like they have. You obviously can't hate it too much since you have frequently stated that you have been here for 20+ years. Did you not want to go to a major? Or will they just not touch you with a 10 foot pole because they can smell the poison coming off of you?
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#43
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
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I will tell you that a buddy of mine went to envoy last year and spent 6 months at ORD and barely got any hours...
So he went to the DFW base to be closer to home for/shorter commute.
He got even less hours at DFW...
So now he's commuting all the way to LGA just to get hours because it was going to take him a few years to even get close to an upgrade.
I can't speak to the OO DFW schedule, but my buddy told me not to go to envoy if i wanted to be based in TX.
Take it with a grain of salt.
So he went to the DFW base to be closer to home for/shorter commute.
He got even less hours at DFW...
So now he's commuting all the way to LGA just to get hours because it was going to take him a few years to even get close to an upgrade.
I can't speak to the OO DFW schedule, but my buddy told me not to go to envoy if i wanted to be based in TX.
Take it with a grain of salt.
#44
A friend of mine has been at Envoy for a few months now, 175/ORD and he's on reserve, barely flew any hours, and I saw his paystubs, my eyes are still bleeding. Then another buddy of mine just got hired 175/DFW and he says he's gonna fly quite a bit, plus barely no reserve. What's the deal here, someone must be lying lol.
#45
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
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It's always hard to know first hand I know, but I get different opinions from different envoy pilots.
A friend of mine has been at Envoy for a few months now, 175/ORD and he's on reserve, barely flew any hours, and I saw his paystubs, my eyes are still bleeding. Then another buddy of mine just got hired 175/DFW and he says he's gonna fly quite a bit, plus barely no reserve. What's the deal here, someone must be lying lol.
A friend of mine has been at Envoy for a few months now, 175/ORD and he's on reserve, barely flew any hours, and I saw his paystubs, my eyes are still bleeding. Then another buddy of mine just got hired 175/DFW and he says he's gonna fly quite a bit, plus barely no reserve. What's the deal here, someone must be lying lol.
I’ll give my 2 cents real quick
Been on reserve and have 90 hours in about a month and a half. I am based on the 175 in ORD.
It really depends on how hard you wanna work with this combination right now since I pick up OT, as well as 175 DFW. We are getting 25 brand new 175s this year so it’s a growing fleet and that’s where you obviously wanna be.
If you get the 145, your expectations may be shattered. So really it’s a gamble. However, every class the last 2 months besides one all 145 class have all been 175 ORD/DFW.
Don’t rely on the flow to get to the majors, but more rather the quicker seniority. I held every single holiday off besides New Years Day and I’ve been here less than 2 months. To say the flow has no benefit is coming from people looking at it from one angle instead of multiple.
With that said, flow= less pay right now. We fill classes to the brim and it gives AAG (not envoy) any incentive to give pay raises until less ppl show up.
To recap, the only reason you should come here is if you get the 175. I commute from MSP and I still think I made a great choice.
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#47
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
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Oh if your not flying it’s brutal. I’m guessing your friend is on reserve, you will make a lot less. There’s a lot of OT that we can pick up that makes up the slack for it however, and when you hold the line that value can increase even more especially with OT. But without that OT, we are one of the lower paying regionals now for the time being and living off of guarantee is not ideal
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