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Old 12-12-2021 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
Which airframe? Wondering how long of a wait for IOE on the ERJ.

And what are people doing while they wait? All the observation flights their hearts desire?
I’m CRJ, and yeah from what I have heard ERJ does have a shorter wait time for IOE.

Yeah ideally you want to do at least 1 jump seat observation flight (down and back) a week so you don’t forget anything.
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Old 12-12-2021 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
Don't complain yet, just enjoy the last holiday off you'll have for the foreseeable future.
Oh I’m not complaining. Still getting paid so I guess I’m still employed. Unless there’s a glitch in the system lol
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Old 12-12-2021 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Claxstarr
4+ weeks now.
Playing Warzone.
Where we dropping?
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Old 12-12-2021 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
No. Tell that to the captains I fly with on a regular basis that for one reason or another they are not getting a call. If you can do so, there is nothing stopping you from going somewhere else before you flow or before you hit a hypothetical interview benchmark.

In todays hiring environment you can get to a major relatively quick if you have kept your nose clean but as we all know that can change quickly. A flow is a guaranteed backup plan which we should all have.
Oh you mean the captains that haven't had their resume/app reviewed? the ones that haven't been to a job fair? the ones that don't do any extra involvement at work? the ones that don't volunteer outside of work? the ones that don't want to get a college degree online?

In today's environment, you can get to a major quickly without flow. In the opposite environment, flow isn't going to help much anyway.

Flow programs are retention programs for regional airlines, and retention = stagnation.
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Old 12-12-2021 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Claxstarr
4+ weeks now.
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Should be playing Halo Infinite instead.
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Old 12-12-2021 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Oh you mean the captains that haven't had their resume/app reviewed? the ones that haven't been to a job fair? the ones that don't do any extra involvement at work? the ones that don't volunteer outside of work? the ones that don't want to get a college degree online?

In today's environment, you can get to a major quickly without flow. In the opposite environment, flow isn't going to help much anyway.

Flow programs are retention programs for regional airlines, and retention = stagnation.
No, the ones who work 90-100 hours a month and have a family and other commitments to take care of when they are not working.

This past/current regional/major system is broken and you’ve obviously been apart of it for too long and you’re jaded. We don’t deserve an A/B scale. A flow or guaranteed interview gets everyone there that wants to be. It’s a long time coming and should’ve been here long ago.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
A flow or guaranteed interview gets everyone there that wants to be.
the current regional system has too many pilots for that to work unless the dwell time on an RJ is around a decade
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Old 12-13-2021 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
Probably a pipe dream but it 100% should be an option for our pilot group. We are the largest regional airline doing the bulk of the flying for each one of our major partners. Why should we not be offered some kind of career progression?
because your at a mainline already.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
because your at a mainline already.
Way to add some substance to the conversation
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Old 12-13-2021 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
Probably a pipe dream but it 100% should be an option for our pilot group. We are the largest regional airline doing the bulk of the flying for each one of our major partners. Why should we not be offered some kind of career progression?
Honest question, what would any of these majors get from giving Skywest a guaranteed interview or career progression program? As of right now none of the majors are having problems getting qualified applicants off the street.
Majors give their wholly owned regional programs like this to attract and retain pilots to those carriers. Endeavor, for example, spent years trying to negotiate their career progression and got the cold shoulder until Delta needed additional RJs and realized they needed something to keep people on property to staff flgihts. In contrast mainline carriers sign contracts with and pays a premium compared to wholly owneds to Skywest to make the day to day operations such as staffing someone else's problem. Mainline has no incentive to do anything to attract or keep pilots on property and it's all on Skywest to figure out how to fulfill their contracts.
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