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CFIsoonToBeFO 06-25-2022 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by flightvector (Post 3448164)
Hi all!

Has anyone heard the latest class dates? I don’t interview till July 19th. Curious as to when class dates are looking like as by then I’ll be at minimums and could leave within the next few weeks. I also have an envoy interview on the 21st. Just curious if anyone has heard class dates though as of recent.

Go to Envoy. $39,600 per year more money at base guarantee for year 1 F/O

v1rotatay 06-25-2022 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by flightvector (Post 3448164)
Hi all!

Has anyone heard the latest class dates? I don’t interview till July 19th. Curious as to when class dates are looking like as by then I’ll be at minimums and could leave within the next few weeks. I also have an envoy interview on the 21st. Just curious if anyone has heard class dates though as of recent.

Just go to the Envoy one.

Dream 06-25-2022 04:43 PM

So I never quite got an answer to my question lol.. are people paid at CA rate after their CA line ioe or the sim check ride if we did not put Any as an option in our bid? Does anyone remember the old way before this new thing was introduced by chance?

v1rotatay 06-25-2022 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Dream (Post 3448209)
So I never quite got an answer to my question lol.. are people paid at CA rate after their CA line ioe or the sim check ride if we did not put Any as an option in our bid? Does anyone remember the old way before this new thing was introduced by chance?

It's after Loe. Cause that is when you can double dip into FO open time trips assuming you didn't upgrade into a new fleet and get paid CA rate for FO trips. For a more in depth answer might I suggest the fabulous SAPA website?

f1racer328 06-25-2022 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by flightvector (Post 3448164)
I also have an envoy interview

Sounds like you should have made your decision already if given the choice.

Dream 06-25-2022 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by v1rotatay (Post 3448217)
It's after Loe. Cause that is when you can double dip into FO open time trips assuming you didn't upgrade into a new fleet and get paid CA rate for FO trips. For a more in depth answer might I suggest the fabulous SAPA website?

Thx for the response! Guess I’ve been getting jipped the past 2 paychecks now- still not surprised but I will contact someone then. I prefer this forum over the student council forum. I also don’t like to put my real name down on there asking a simple question and getting judged in case it’s an obvious answer. Little more peace of mind I suppose.

Timmay 06-26-2022 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Dream (Post 3448306)
Thx for the response! Guess I’ve been getting jipped the past 2 paychecks now- still not surprised but I will contact someone then. I prefer this forum over the student council forum. I also don’t like to put my real name down on there asking a simple question and getting judged in case it’s an obvious answer. Little more peace of mind I suppose.

I'd be more embarrassed that an airline captain would rather seek out pay answers from an internet forum than call the payroll department.

R0GER BALL 06-26-2022 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 3448395)
I'd be more embarrassed that an airline captain would rather seek out pay answers from an internet forum than call the payroll department.

You haven’t experienced the dishonesty in the payroll department then. 100% of the time the errors are in the company’s favor. It’s too perfect. Case in point above….

v1rotatay 06-26-2022 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by R0GER BALL (Post 3448431)
You haven’t experienced the dishonesty in the payroll department then. 100% of the time the errors are in the company’s favor. It’s too perfect. Case in point above….

You'll never be overpaid at OO lol.

bradthepilot 06-26-2022 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by R0GER BALL (Post 3448431)
You haven’t experienced the dishonesty in the payroll department then. 100% of the time the errors are in the company’s favor. It’s too perfect. Case in point above….

Not 100% of the time. I have found errors in payroll that were in my favor. Company acknowledged them and said "keep it - thanks for being honest". I really doubt anyone in payroll gets up in the morning looking to cheat some pilot out of a few dollars - much more likely is a simple mistake since the pay structure and rules are freakishly complex compared to most other industries.


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