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Old 02-17-2019, 11:20 PM   #11  
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Thanks. You think it’s the end of the world if it happens? As in something the majors really don’t want to see for your initial training?


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I'm not hiring for the majors so I really don't know. The general consensus is that recent training issues are a red flag, but a single event (or multiple with good interview answers) a long time ago aren't a big deal.

A new hire at a regional is 3-4 years away from being somewhat competitive at majors - that should be plenty of time. Just don't form a pattern and keep failing/needing more training.

The worst thing you can do is try to hide it. The conversation you DON'T want to have at a major interview is "so, you said you have no failures or unsats?" "no, sir" "any issues in training?" "not really, no..." "ok, so what is this R6 event you had as a new hire?" "well, uhm, no, I mean..." "ok, we'll call you, don't call us."
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I'm not hiring for the majors so I really don't know. The general consensus is that recent training issues are a red flag, but a single event (or multiple with good interview answers) a long time ago aren't a big deal.

A new hire at a regional is 3-4 years away from being somewhat competitive at majors - that should be plenty of time. Just don't form a pattern and keep failing/needing more training.

The worst thing you can do is try to hide it. The conversation you DON'T want to have at a major interview is "so, you said you have no failures or unsats?" "no, sir" "any issues in training?" "not really, no..." "ok, so what is this R6 event you had as a new hire?" "well, uhm, no, I mean..." "ok, we'll call you, don't call us."


Got it. Thank you for the information!


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Old 02-17-2019, 11:26 PM   #13  
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In some cases, needing extra time might be a good selling point in an interview.
"I didn't feel comfortable doing the checkride at that point, I needed a few more pointers to nail V1 cuts, they gave me an extra session and I got it right, and I passed the extra recurrent training event no problems".
Shows good judgement.

vs.

"The company wanted to rush me and I failed my MV".
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:27 PM   #14  
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In some cases, needing extra time might be a good selling point in an interview.

"I didn't feel comfortable doing the checkride at that point, I needed a few more pointers to nail V1 cuts, they gave me an extra session and I got it right, and I passed the extra recurrent training event no problems".

Shows good judgement.



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"The company wanted to rush me and I failed my MV".


VERY good point. Thank you for that!


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Old 02-18-2019, 07:17 AM   #15  
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If it's your first 121 training course, and you took a little longer but passed everything I don't think that would be an issue for most majors.

I recall that my OO PRIA printout listed every training event I did for the last five or seven years. So I assume a reviewer would note that my recurrent events were always one year (+/- one month) apart. I suspect they would note an early event, and it sounds like it may be coded differently.

But it doesn't really matter what PRIA says, you need to answer the questions on the application verbatim... read them carefully, answer them literally. In the old days it was just "have you ever failed a checkride", but recently the questions have gotten a lot more detailed.

Be honest, if they think you're not being honest, you're done. And it's not a court of law, they don't need "beyond reasonable doubt", they just need the slightest hint or suspicion that something's not quite right. If it's a grey area on the question, I would still tend to be honest so there's no misunderstanding.

All that said, the app/interview is not confessional... don't tell them anything (negative) which they clearly did not ask for.
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Does an extra ioe trip show up on pria?
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:15 AM   #17  
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Does an extra ioe trip show up on pria?
Swol- FO Home Page - AQP - Student Detail - search.
Sorry this is not a direct answer but here all grades and events are listed...if you didnít know.
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Old 02-18-2019, 10:20 AM   #18  
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Swol- FO Home Page - AQP - Student Detail - search.
Sorry this is not a direct answer but here all grades and events are listed...if you didnít know.
That's nifty!
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Does an extra ioe trip show up on pria?
Not that I am aware of. A failed line check does though if I am not mistaken.
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I’m not in it currently. We can have up to 2 hours of extra sim time with no penalty, but if we need more than that we are put in to special tracking. I just am trying to understand how “bad” it looks if I go over the 2 hours.


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Special Tracking is outlined in the training manual. In there the events that result in FAA notification (eg. *the* PRIA events) are outlined as well.

Common PRIA examples: IMV, IKV, ILOE, CQ KV/LOE (events such as IPV or CQMV are NOT events OO needs to specifically report to the FAA, but in can (in the case of the CQMV) enter you into ST)

That's how I've understood it at least. If anyone here has been in ST before and wants to chime in, that'll probably get you a better answer.
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