ALPA Drive 2.0
06-04-2019, 03:22 PM
#253
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
about 2.5 years. not exactly a newbie but certainly not the most experienced
06-04-2019, 03:23 PM
#254
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
as a current RJ pilot I hope DL, UA, and, AA all take back 100 rjs or more each. replace 1000 rj jobs that pay $45-90/hr with mainline level jobs. as long as they hire rj guys this is a win/win. acording to APC a 2nd year DL 717 FO makes more per hour than a maxed out 175 ca at OO. not counting profit sharing or 16% 401k
06-04-2019, 03:38 PM
#255
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Originally Posted by Melit
That would put you on the street for sure and not marketable so be careful what you wish for. 100 less RJ’s would make a Commute wonderful for all.
06-04-2019, 04:10 PM
#258
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
do you really think OO would lay off everyone if they lost 20-30% of their flying with all the upward movement that would entail. to be clear im not advocating for the end of all regionals. just saying any major taking back a % of regional flying would not be all bad. you may not want to leave but someone sr to you might. btw if AA, UA, and DL all took back 100 rjs each that would still leave over 1,000 at the regionals. thats still about 10k rj jobs
06-04-2019, 05:09 PM
#259
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Originally Posted by amcnd
He's not disillusioned.. it is correct. DL alpa pilots directly control the number of RJ’s. This directly effects the number of “high” paying regional jobs.. how can you not say the two are tied together... yes. Each “individual” airline negotiates for themselves (pay work rules) but they are limited to what they have. Or aka what The Major Alpa partner lets them have... it’s been a conflict of interest for decades.... if you remember how flowbacks came back to Eagle, SkyWest.. ect. All a direct resolt of there major partners union.. is teamsters the answer??... what if DL alpa wantd to decrease the number of RJ’s by 100. Would alpa National let them knowing that would put 1000 alpa regional pilots on the street. Yes they would.. because you said each MEC can negotiate for themselves. So where is the protection???
There is no protection, Big D can take back whatever they want. I don't see it for wanting mainline to have the flying but for mismanagement for big safety items like our close out debacle in ATL. Yes each MEC can land grab whatever they want and we are the little fish.
But, do you really think SAPA could do anything better?
06-04-2019, 05:14 PM
#260
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Maybe Maybe not. That could float 100-200 pilots. But over that cost would rise.. then it would be like guys hired in the 2007/8 range. Perpetual reserve, reduced line values.. ect..
100 to 200 would put it back to 2007 or 2008? Where you get your math? It would put it back to last March maybe February. Last month we lost 67, 2months of natural attrition and we back to hiring.
You're not making sense....
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