Comair went away because they cost the parent company money. A couple of rogue captains denying the jumpseat won’t cost United enough for them to give a regional the boot. Most captains will continue to play nice with everyone. My guess is that those who do decide to play this card will be reported to United’s jumpseat committee and the regional captain will be passed over for a “better applicant” if they ever get as far as an interview.

 

You’ve got a heck of a lot of wisdom built up for someone whose only been in the airline industry since 8/23/17

 

Do you know your history? Comair went on strike. Distrusted Deltas summer flying. What does this have to do with a jumpseat war? Do you really think united cares if you make it home? The answer is no, nor do I care.

 

Comair became a problem for DAL and the problem was fixed. If you don’t think UAL management cares about UAL pilots having issues with SkyWest causing them problems getting to work then you are gravely mistaken. Good Luck.

 

The below is not legal advice and this communication is not intended to create an attorney client relationship between any party. If you believe you have been the victim of defamation slander or retaliation you should consult with a lawyer who is a member of your local jurisdiction.

In a strictly hypothetical situation. If you believe a future hiring body would retaliate against you for acting in compliance with you prior employers directives. I would take the following steps:

Take down the name of the person who may retaliate against you at a later date. This is important because all communication between this individual and the hiring body can be subpoenaed at later date and a spoliation letter will need to be sent. Write a memorandum of the events that you sign and date with times of events. Both the hiring body and the individual who communicated with the hiring body may be liable personally and as a representative of the employer. Depending on your jurisdiction you may also be able to bring claims of slander/liable and defamation against all individuals. All of this advice would highly vary by jurisdiction therefore you should certainly consult with an employment lawyer in your jurisdiction if you believe a retaliatory event has occurred.

 

It is a messed up situation. I for one just want to show up to work and enjoy the job, I'm not looking to step on anyone's toes.

Also the way SAPA seems to be threatening us with our "certificates being put on the line if we don't follow FOM" leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Rock and a hard place type situation, and I hope someone lowers their head soon.

Also, why hasn't SAPA put out a vote on how we want to proceed with this JS war?

 

An airline’s FOM is an agreement with their employees how day to day operations are to be conducted. If you are in noncompliance with your company’s own FOM and the FAA witnesses it, you can face regulatory action against you specifically. UALPA’s new JS priority rules are not reciprocal with Skywest, Republic or Mesa. Meaning, the new rules have not been reflected in SkyWest’s, Republic’s or Mesa’s FOM. So, allowing UAL or UAX-E pilots into the jumpseat or letting them list and then be placed in the cabin is in direct violation of the FOM for those airlines. I, for one, will not risk my license and career for this. So, I will not allow UAL or UAX-E pilots onboard until an agreement is reciprocal and properly reflected in my FOM. I left the corporate world not to deal with happy horse ****** like this, but it is what it is. Personally, I will feel horrible every time I have to do it, because we are all pilots just trying to get home or to work, but it has nothing to do with “not being welcome” as some have posted here. It’s regulatory in nature and now it’s in the hands of the pilot associations. Until then just list for non-rev travel on the affected carriers.

 

Until I see an FOM change or FOIB regarding this everyone is welcome on my jumpseat.

 

SAPA cannot threaten your certificate. The FAA sure can, though.

 

How will you know the UAL or UAX-E pilot sitting in your jumpseat has been properly prioritized according to the FOM? That’s the risk you’re taking. Your choice, I guess.