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Old 05-01-2020, 12:20 PM
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I guess we will know pretty soon what the plan is. I assume under WARN they will be sending out letters 60 days prior if furloughs are happening, or do I have that wrong?

Call me the eternal optimist, but if it is to happen I just don’t think it will go as deep as some (domino) say. Reduced credit lines, plenty of reserve on a reduced guarantee and a hopeful slight up trend in flying among our 4 partners will again, hopefully, make the number they have to furlough minimal.
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:44 PM
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You have to wonder if one type of the fleet (hint CRJ) is going to be axed. It seems we could be running small classes, at least CQ? All CR9 now parked, Very strange.
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Old 05-02-2020, 05:19 AM
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You have to wonder if one type of the fleet (hint CRJ) is going to be axed. It seems we could be running small classes, at least CQ? All CR9 now parked, Very strange.
That may be because of all the mainline aircraft parked. There a few unusual scope restrictions at play that we normally wouldn’t be working with if everyone was still flying. On that same note, the mainline fleet is coming out smaller which means the same for ours I’m sure.

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Old 05-02-2020, 12:10 PM
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No DVR could be they anticipate the need for a huge “re-alignment” bid... SAPA call said no training tell August, and letting people dequal.(full pay). why would they do that?? Well could be that the cost to run CQ then only 2 month later displace people to the ERJ/CRJ or heaven forbid the street, would be a waste of money... Or could mean FSI is not ready to reopen there facilities... Lots of unknowns
Admittedly, I didn't listen to the call, but the cliff's notes on the SAPA forum says the dequal at full pay was for pilots in special tracking, did they really say "all" pilots will be dequalled with full pay? Granted, not much we can do if FSI isn't opening the facilities. My CQ was supposed to be Easter Sunday, Sked+ now says I dequal June 30th. Not being able to requal until August (at the earliest) will make things very interesting. I haven't flown in three weeks, and won't for May, now I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to do my 90 day currency in June if I won't be qualified in July anyway.
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Old 05-02-2020, 12:56 PM
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Admittedly, I didn't listen to the call, but the cliff's notes on the SAPA forum says the dequal at full pay was for pilots in special tracking, did they really say "all" pilots will be dequalled with full pay? Granted, not much we can do if FSI isn't opening the facilities. My CQ was supposed to be Easter Sunday, Sked+ now says I dequal June 30th. Not being able to requal until August (at the earliest) will make things very interesting. I haven't flown in three weeks, and won't for May, now I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to do my 90 day currency in June if I won't be qualified in July anyway.
Sounds like training in July. look at the email that tells you when you will dequal.. As far as Special tracking. The FAA didn't allow a extension on special tracking due dates, from what i heard...
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Old 05-02-2020, 06:10 PM
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Sounds like training in July. look at the email that tells you when you will dequal.. As far as Special tracking. The FAA didn't allow a extension on special tracking due dates, from what i heard...
From SAPA:

"As the company has closed the training centers down until at least the end of July, they have decided to allow pilots in special tracking to de qualify. Those pilots will receive an email on all those details and the specifics. Those pilots will be paid either 67.2 hours or 72 hours, depending on whether or not they are line holders or reservists."
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Old 05-02-2020, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jpso View Post
From SAPA:

"As the company has closed the training centers down until at least the end of July, they have decided to allow pilots in special tracking to de qualify. Those pilots will receive an email on all those details and the specifics. Those pilots will be paid either 67.2 hours or 72 hours, depending on whether or not they are line holders or reservists."
Thats a better deal the CPTO!!!
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:10 AM
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Thats a better deal the CPTO!!!
If I'd known that was gonna happen, I would've just busted my last MV!!
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jpso View Post
From SAPA:

"As the company has closed the training centers down until at least the end of July, they have decided to allow pilots in special tracking to de qualify. Those pilots will receive an email on all those details and the specifics. Those pilots will be paid either 67.2 hours or 72 hours, depending on whether or not they are line holders or reservists."
Rewarding those that should be selling insurance instead of flying.
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jpso View Post
From SAPA:

"As the company has closed the training centers down until at least the end of July, they have decided to allow pilots in special tracking to de qualify. Those pilots will receive an email on all those details and the specifics. Those pilots will be paid either 67.2 hours or 72 hours, depending on whether or not they are line holders or reservists."
Is end of July when the WARN letters would have to be sent out? Hopefully just a coincidence.
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