Pilot forced to sleep on plane?
07-28-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
Not moving into the jumpseat to get one of your other crewmembers on is a real dick move.
Yes technically if we are not on Skywest we are not supposed to move into the JS, while on Skywest we can be asked to do it and it is our discretion whether we do or don't.
If they were PS'd on mainline UAL, the Captain could have Canx'd the Deadhead and taken the JS. Would've been paid for the Canx'd leg, would've received Per Diem for the Time until the Flight arrived in DEN. From the crew's perspective everything would have been the same. Since the Captain was being a dick about it, a good FO shouldof have done so to help out the IOE FA.
Still not so sure why everyone seems to be having such a problem with using Hayden as the Divert field. What was the WX in HDN? I've been in there a few times and it wasn't that bad, Sure in the Winter time with a close Temp/Dew Point the fog can kick in, and the winds can make it suck really bad, but I've had worse Turbulence into DEN SEA and RNO.
What was the WX in BFF? Was there ramp space in BFF? Does BFF have ground handling equipment to support an RON of a 175? It's listed as a Divert and Fueling field in the OpsSpec, But can they handle an overnight there of a crew that will time out?
Someone else mentioned GJT had no ramp space. How was LAR, GCC, RAP? Did Mainline fill up COS, or was the weather system affecting them too? How many other planes did the massive cluster, and where was this crew in the Congo Line? Monday morning quarterbacking where someone successfully diverts is insulting, especially when you have none of the facts about what else was going on in the area. Jumping to conclusions that this crew flew the airplane and passengers out after sleeping in the airplane shows a serious lack of critical reading skills
Was this Captain wrong in posting the sleeping on the plane story on social media, and not helping out the rest of the crew afterwards? yep and I hope Skywest takes action, but the decision to divert to HDN is the least of my concerns about this whole incident/
Yes technically if we are not on Skywest we are not supposed to move into the JS, while on Skywest we can be asked to do it and it is our discretion whether we do or don't.
If they were PS'd on mainline UAL, the Captain could have Canx'd the Deadhead and taken the JS. Would've been paid for the Canx'd leg, would've received Per Diem for the Time until the Flight arrived in DEN. From the crew's perspective everything would have been the same. Since the Captain was being a dick about it, a good FO should
Still not so sure why everyone seems to be having such a problem with using Hayden as the Divert field. What was the WX in HDN? I've been in there a few times and it wasn't that bad, Sure in the Winter time with a close Temp/Dew Point the fog can kick in, and the winds can make it suck really bad, but I've had worse Turbulence into DEN SEA and RNO.
What was the WX in BFF? Was there ramp space in BFF? Does BFF have ground handling equipment to support an RON of a 175? It's listed as a Divert and Fueling field in the OpsSpec, But can they handle an overnight there of a crew that will time out?
Someone else mentioned GJT had no ramp space. How was LAR, GCC, RAP? Did Mainline fill up COS, or was the weather system affecting them too? How many other planes did the massive cluster, and where was this crew in the Congo Line? Monday morning quarterbacking where someone successfully diverts is insulting, especially when you have none of the facts about what else was going on in the area. Jumping to conclusions that this crew flew the airplane and passengers out after sleeping in the airplane shows a serious lack of critical reading skills
Was this Captain wrong in posting the sleeping on the plane story on social media, and not helping out the rest of the crew afterwards? yep and I hope Skywest takes action, but the decision to divert to HDN is the least of my concerns about this whole incident/
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