OO pressuring mainline carriers to not hire
06-01-2022, 07:21 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Although the sim isn't the end-all, be-all... some folks do fail IOE when they don't always get vectored onto an ILS four miles outside the marker in the real world.
06-01-2022, 07:36 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
You aren't kidding. Hardest part of IOE was figuring out how to get down and slow when they leave you high and fast and vector you to the FAF on a visual. They don't teach that in the sim.
06-02-2022, 06:55 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
You aren't kidding. Hardest part of IOE was figuring out how to get down and slow when they leave you high and fast and vector you to the FAF on a visual. They don't teach that in the sim.
place a point 30 miles from the airport at 10,000ft AGL. Start asking for lower when you are getting closer or past this point. Also don’t keep chugging along at .78M, slow down and prepare for your descent.
Remember another great word rarely used is “unable”. Just tips from a former LCA
06-02-2022, 05:17 PM
#44
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OO pressuring mainline carriers to not hire
Originally Posted by CareerPivot
You aren't kidding. Hardest part of IOE was figuring out how to get down and slow when they leave you high and fast and vector you to the FAF on a visual. They don't teach that in the sim.
Some tools to add to your tool box.
Slow
Do some decent planning. I usually plan for 10k/30 or 11k/30 if the airport elevation is high. Remember your 3 to 1 rule and keep that in your back pocket.
You can always say Unable or request delay vectors if they leave you high
If all else fails, get some drag out.
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06-02-2022, 05:26 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Some tools to add to your tool box.
Slow
Do some decent planning. I usually plan for 10k/30 or 11k/30 if the airport elevation is high. Remember your 3 to 1 rule and keep that in your back pocket.
You can always say Unable or request delay vectors if they leave you high
If all else fails, get some drag out.
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Slow
Do some decent planning. I usually plan for 10k/30 or 11k/30 if the airport elevation is high. Remember your 3 to 1 rule and keep that in your back pocket.
You can always say Unable or request delay vectors if they leave you high
If all else fails, get some drag out.
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Biggest issue I think is not being aggressive enough. Gear and full boards will make any transport category jet hit around 6-8:1 descent ratio (assuming no crazy tailwinds or similar exceptions). If you were ahead of the game and slowed down early, you can be 4000ft too high at 10 miles, and still be stable and configured at the marker.
06-03-2022, 11:51 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
i don’t like your chances in a legal fight.
You won't make money on this endeavor and you likely won't be going to the Air Line that is metering you post-CJO. You will however put SkyWest management and their poor anti-labor practices in the spotlight which is perhaps what will bother them the most. Plenty of things those two men have done that they prefer to keep quiet.
06-03-2022, 12:03 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by Mitchell Gant
if you’re ever having a really hard time slowing down always throw the gear it’s the one saving grace to get the plane to drag.
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