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Old 07-02-2022, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie View Post
Sir, you have made your point on the regional upgrade issue several times, in several threads on both SkyWest and other regional threads. I’ve read your thesis several times, it hasn’t changed, 5+5 still equals 10.

I’m asking you to respectfully to stop hijacking every thread. We’ve heard your thesis, some of us were informed already. I have to believe every active reader of the forums have surely read at least 1 of your 100 posts on why this isn’t attrition isn’t sustainable.
Thank you for saying what we’ve all been thinking.
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AA fired a shot across the bow and proclaimed we're committed to our regional model. United and Delta will now have to commit or let their network wither on the vine until they readjust and takeover what they can do with a mainline aircraft.
I mean yes, AA proclaimed their commitment to the regional model… Because they had to or their business model was at a high risk of failing. AA is much more heavily dependent on regional lift than both Delta and United are. Delta brought a ton of that flying in-house with the 717s and A220s. United is bringing it in-house with their large 737 order. AA can’t do either of those things in the same ways that DA and UA did/can do.

I’m actually not so sure that Delta and United follow suit… The AA regionals can’t hire everyone and the amount of money that was just shoved at them is entirely unsustainable. It’s indicative of AA’s over-reliance on regionals if anything.
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Old 07-02-2022, 05:17 PM
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I’m actually not so sure that Delta and United follow suit… The AA regionals can’t hire everyone and the amount of money that was just shoved at them is entirely unsustainable. It’s indicative of AA’s over-reliance on regionals if anything.
To say this another way, huge bonuses and huge salaries are signals of desperation. Don’t get me wrong I want a raise at OO and think it’s coming, but if the rates aren’t quite as eye-popping as Envoy it might just be because OO isn’t teetering on the brink of collapse.
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Old 07-02-2022, 05:29 PM
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I mean yes, AA proclaimed their commitment to the regional model… Because they had to or their business model was at a high risk of failing. AA is much more heavily dependent on regional lift than both Delta and United are. Delta brought a ton of that flying in-house with the 717s and A220s. United is bringing it in-house with their large 737 order. AA can’t do either of those things in the same ways that DA and UA did/can do.

I’m actually not so sure that Delta and United follow suit… The AA regionals can’t hire everyone and the amount of money that was just shoved at them is entirely unsustainable. It’s indicative of AA’s over-reliance on regionals if anything.
Do you have the data or a link? I’d like to glance over DL’s and UAL’s regional feed usage compared to AA’s if you have that information available.
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Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie View Post
Do you have the data or a link? I’d like to glance over DL’s and UAL’s regional feed usage compared to AA’s if you have that information available.
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Old 07-02-2022, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie View Post
Do you have the data or a link? I’d like to glance over DL’s and UAL’s regional feed usage compared to AA’s if you have that information available.
Currently UA is about 65%, AA 64% and DL 45%, UA wants to park 200 50 seaters by 2026 and grow their mainline fleet which should bring them down to DL's ratio. This is aircraft numbers not seats so I don't now how that breaks down.
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Currently UA is about 65%, AA 64% and DL 45%, UA wants to park 200 50 seaters by 2026 and grow their mainline fleet which should bring them down to DL's ratio. This is aircraft numbers not seats so I don't now how that breaks down.
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Just for clarification. Are those percentages of aircraft, not seats? I wonder what the percentage of seats are?
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Been at OO for over 8 years now. Great place to be, but it’s not the end goal. However, soon I will join the gone list. Great crews, good outfit, wouldn’t have gone anywhere else.
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Imagine working here and having to pay a mortgage with all that noise in the background.
Don’t forget the “any” upgrade drama.

It is the biggest, yet for the last three months they are averaging just 32ish upgrades/month.
Turning the firehose down. So that IOE and Sim can catch up.. full open again in August..
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Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie View Post
Sir, you have made your point on the regional upgrade issue several times, in several threads on both SkyWest and other regional threads. I’ve read your thesis several times, it hasn’t changed, 5+5 still equals 10.

I’m asking you to respectfully stop hijacking every thread. We’ve heard your thesis, some of us were informed already. I have to believe every active reader of the forums have surely read at least 1 of your 100 posts on why this kind of regional attrition isn’t sustainable.
This kind of attrition isn't sustainable and Skywest has officially entered the death spiral. Over at Envoy we are getting Skywest captains who are applying.
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