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Old 02-23-2023 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
Well. In today’s market you should NEVER end up as a regional CA. Fly 6mo and leave for an LCC or ULCC- which ever one means you drive to work.
Year 2 FO at every single LCC/ULCC makes more then the most senior SkyWest FO.
An upgrade at every single LCC/ULCC makes more than the most senior SkyWest CA.
And 15% direct contribution retirement.
Plus all the other soft pay benefits.
Oh. And the flying. Your actual job… 738/321 far greater then CRJ.

3-6 months at SkyWest and jump. At ANY age and seniority level. It’s a special time.
This exactly! The regional captain model is failing and they thought a cheap buyout would fix it or recession with a pause in hiring into the majors would bail them out. They gambled wrong. They could buy themselves out of it, but at the end of the day the management wants the money for themselves and the stockholders.

Every FO looking to upgrade sees it pretty simple. Do I upgrade and make roughly 150k per year with a horrible schedule, no QOL, and a pitiful 401k match

Do I leave for a ULCC make the same as I am making now for a year, fly a bigger plane, get a better schedule just by nature of the flying and a 15% DC and then make 150k next year?

This is an easy decision.

The regionals have money in the bank (or money backed by the majors) and renegotiated their contracts to account for pilot wages. They could make the job of regional captain pay enough to offset the negatives and get people to stay. They are slow to do this or just will not.

The result is that almost every FO with time will leave and the company will downsize and the captains that are at the regional for life will keep the ship afloat while the quality of flying and schedules continues to decrease.

Without FOs upgrading to captains to keep the flying going there is no capacity to keep hiring all the CFIs as they have previously been able to do
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Old 02-23-2023 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by VegasChris
This exactly! The regional captain model is failing and they thought a cheap buyout would fix it or recession with a pause in hiring into the majors would bail them out. They gambled wrong. They could buy themselves out of it, but at the end of the day the management wants the money for themselves and the stockholders.

Every FO looking to upgrade sees it pretty simple. Do I upgrade and make roughly 150k per year with a horrible schedule, no QOL, and a pitiful 401k match

Do I leave for a ULCC make the same as I am making now for a year, fly a bigger plane, get a better schedule just by nature of the flying and a 15% DC and then make 150k next year?

This is an easy decision.

The regionals have money in the bank (or money backed by the majors) and renegotiated their contracts to account for pilot wages. They could make the job of regional captain pay enough to offset the negatives and get people to stay. They are slow to do this or just will not.

The result is that FO with time will leave and the company will downsize and the captains that are at the regional for life will keep the ship afloat while the quality of flying and schedules continues to decrease.
Yes this is the environment, and in any other environment a hobby pilot wouldn’t be here.
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Old 02-23-2023 | 02:35 PM
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Anyone heard anything surrounding the 3/31 ATP 4/10 indoc?
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Old 02-28-2023 | 02:43 PM
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Default 4/14-4/24 ERJ Date

Just got the dreaded "we will assign you a new class date in the coming months" email from recruiting. ERJ 4/14-CTP with 4/24 INDOC. Unfortunate, and disappointing, just letting everybody know.
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Old 02-28-2023 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselBird
Just got the dreaded "we will assign you a new class date in the coming months" email from recruiting. ERJ 4/14-CTP with 4/24 INDOC. Unfortunate, and disappointing, just letting everybody know.
I got the same thing. Same dates :-/
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Old 03-01-2023 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselBird
Just got the dreaded "we will assign you a new class date in the coming months" email from recruiting. ERJ 4/14-CTP with 4/24 INDOC. Unfortunate, and disappointing, just letting everybody know.
for what its worth my understanding is the ERJ stuff is pushed until summer.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scribbler
for what its worth my understanding is the ERJ stuff is pushed until summer.
My formal CFI ( captain at SkyWest on CRJ) told me that his FO's girlfriend had a class date for November, but then got pushed to April, and they just cancelled that again for second time. And that is a long wait.

Another friend of mine finished indoc in Dec and waited two months for ground. My guess is that it gonna be awhile before they reassign the class date. Unfortunately.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 01:27 PM
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Anyone previously without a class date hear anything recently? I interviewed Nov. 8 with all my hours, finally heard back on December 15 with an emailed CJO but no class date (recruiter just said she'd let me know when she had more info to offer on a class date), and I've been waiting in limbo ever since watching helplessly on these forums as people *with* class dates get pushed back indefinitely.

Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bean of joy
Anyone previously without a class date hear anything recently? I interviewed Nov. 8 with all my hours, finally heard back on December 15 with an emailed CJO but no class date (recruiter just said she'd let me know when she had more info to offer on a class date), and I've been waiting in limbo ever since watching helplessly on these forums as people *with* class dates get pushed back indefinitely.

Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
Are you erj or crj? I interviewed around the same time, and had a class date for the end of February/beginning of March for CRJ
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Old 03-01-2023 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bean of joy
Anyone previously without a class date hear anything recently? I interviewed Nov. 8 with all my hours, finally heard back on December 15 with an emailed CJO but no class date (recruiter just said she'd let me know when she had more info to offer on a class date), and I've been waiting in limbo ever since watching helplessly on these forums as people *with* class dates get pushed back indefinitely.

Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
If you go to your SkyWest Online portal and click travel details and those dates are there, then you would have those dates. If it’s blank, unfortunately you are in the same boat as us.
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