SkyWest: Training Delays?
#231
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Well. In today’s market you should NEVER end up as a regional CA. Fly 6mo and leave for an LCC or ULCC- which ever one means you drive to work.
Year 2 FO at every single LCC/ULCC makes more then the most senior SkyWest FO.
An upgrade at every single LCC/ULCC makes more than the most senior SkyWest CA.
And 15% direct contribution retirement.
Plus all the other soft pay benefits.
Oh. And the flying. Your actual job… 738/321 far greater then CRJ.
3-6 months at SkyWest and jump. At ANY age and seniority level. It’s a special time.
Year 2 FO at every single LCC/ULCC makes more then the most senior SkyWest FO.
An upgrade at every single LCC/ULCC makes more than the most senior SkyWest CA.
And 15% direct contribution retirement.
Plus all the other soft pay benefits.
Oh. And the flying. Your actual job… 738/321 far greater then CRJ.
3-6 months at SkyWest and jump. At ANY age and seniority level. It’s a special time.
Every FO looking to upgrade sees it pretty simple. Do I upgrade and make roughly 150k per year with a horrible schedule, no QOL, and a pitiful 401k match
Do I leave for a ULCC make the same as I am making now for a year, fly a bigger plane, get a better schedule just by nature of the flying and a 15% DC and then make 150k next year?
This is an easy decision.
The regionals have money in the bank (or money backed by the majors) and renegotiated their contracts to account for pilot wages. They could make the job of regional captain pay enough to offset the negatives and get people to stay. They are slow to do this or just will not.
The result is that almost every FO with time will leave and the company will downsize and the captains that are at the regional for life will keep the ship afloat while the quality of flying and schedules continues to decrease.
Without FOs upgrading to captains to keep the flying going there is no capacity to keep hiring all the CFIs as they have previously been able to do
#232
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Joined: Feb 2022
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This exactly! The regional captain model is failing and they thought a cheap buyout would fix it or recession with a pause in hiring into the majors would bail them out. They gambled wrong. They could buy themselves out of it, but at the end of the day the management wants the money for themselves and the stockholders.
Every FO looking to upgrade sees it pretty simple. Do I upgrade and make roughly 150k per year with a horrible schedule, no QOL, and a pitiful 401k match
Do I leave for a ULCC make the same as I am making now for a year, fly a bigger plane, get a better schedule just by nature of the flying and a 15% DC and then make 150k next year?
This is an easy decision.
The regionals have money in the bank (or money backed by the majors) and renegotiated their contracts to account for pilot wages. They could make the job of regional captain pay enough to offset the negatives and get people to stay. They are slow to do this or just will not.
The result is that FO with time will leave and the company will downsize and the captains that are at the regional for life will keep the ship afloat while the quality of flying and schedules continues to decrease.
Every FO looking to upgrade sees it pretty simple. Do I upgrade and make roughly 150k per year with a horrible schedule, no QOL, and a pitiful 401k match
Do I leave for a ULCC make the same as I am making now for a year, fly a bigger plane, get a better schedule just by nature of the flying and a 15% DC and then make 150k next year?
This is an easy decision.
The regionals have money in the bank (or money backed by the majors) and renegotiated their contracts to account for pilot wages. They could make the job of regional captain pay enough to offset the negatives and get people to stay. They are slow to do this or just will not.
The result is that FO with time will leave and the company will downsize and the captains that are at the regional for life will keep the ship afloat while the quality of flying and schedules continues to decrease.
#234
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2023
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From: CRJ CA
Just got the dreaded "we will assign you a new class date in the coming months" email from recruiting. ERJ 4/14-CTP with 4/24 INDOC. Unfortunate, and disappointing, just letting everybody know.
#235
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Joined: Dec 2018
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From: MH60S
#236
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Joined: Oct 2022
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for what its worth my understanding is the ERJ stuff is pushed until summer.
#237
On Reserve
Joined: Feb 2023
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Another friend of mine finished indoc in Dec and waited two months for ground. My guess is that it gonna be awhile before they reassign the class date. Unfortunately.
#238
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Joined: Apr 2022
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Anyone previously without a class date hear anything recently? I interviewed Nov. 8 with all my hours, finally heard back on December 15 with an emailed CJO but no class date (recruiter just said she'd let me know when she had more info to offer on a class date), and I've been waiting in limbo ever since watching helplessly on these forums as people *with* class dates get pushed back indefinitely.
Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
#239
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2023
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Anyone previously without a class date hear anything recently? I interviewed Nov. 8 with all my hours, finally heard back on December 15 with an emailed CJO but no class date (recruiter just said she'd let me know when she had more info to offer on a class date), and I've been waiting in limbo ever since watching helplessly on these forums as people *with* class dates get pushed back indefinitely.
Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
#240
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2023
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Anyone previously without a class date hear anything recently? I interviewed Nov. 8 with all my hours, finally heard back on December 15 with an emailed CJO but no class date (recruiter just said she'd let me know when she had more info to offer on a class date), and I've been waiting in limbo ever since watching helplessly on these forums as people *with* class dates get pushed back indefinitely.
Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
Surprisingly I just got an automated email today asking me to complete a transfer form and the paperwork seems to indicate a 4/17 class date in SLC (4/7 CTP date). No communication from an actual person or anything so I don't know for sure what to make of it, but curious if anyone else has heard anything.
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