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Old 05-06-2013 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by clearprop
Suze O gives good basic advise anyone can find in a "Finance for Dummies Handbook". However her performance is clown-like and dumb'ed down for the sheep.

She is cheap cable entertainment.
That's kinda how I feel watching Jim Cramers "Mad Money". When you look at the numerous ethical violations and practices while he was a hedge fund manager it's easy to not take him seriously.

I watch him for entertainment. He does get pretty fired up
Old 05-06-2013 | 10:04 PM
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Like I said, for the basics, she is better than umm knowing nothing. Just watch the Daily show's frying of Jim Cramer and that will help you appreciate what a sham that show is too...
Old 05-07-2013 | 12:05 PM
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Basically, if you're anywhere, Skywest or not, I hope everyone is paying in to their own retirements and saving up since we know the company won't exactly be your mother hen when it comes to that time.
Old 05-07-2013 | 12:47 PM
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This discussion illustrates just one more of the many costs of a (civil) aviation career, and one that most are unaware of...

All these financials gurus will tell you that the key to long-term financial success/security is to minimize debt early and start saving as soon as you enter the work force. The power of investment appreciation over time cannot be understated, but most pilots barely have money for student loans and ramen in the early years, thus losing out that vital build-up of assets when it counts the most. It's like starting a takeoff roll halfway down the runway so that V1/VR is somewhere in the approach lights off the departure end...

Financial planning in aviation is similar to that practiced by powerball players...hope you grab the brass ring (the purple or brown one).
Old 05-07-2013 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cactipilot
Basically, if you're anywhere, Skywest or not, I hope everyone is paying in to their own retirements and saving up since we know the company won't exactly be your mother hen when it comes to that time.
On FO pay with student loans? You've gotta be kidding. Without paying anything into my 401k I barely afford food and I don't even own a car or a TV. Not paying for gas or cable bills helps... My plan is pretty much to work until I die unless I get hired by UPS or something.
Old 05-07-2013 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
On FO pay with student loans? You've gotta be kidding. Without paying anything into my 401k I barely afford food and I don't even own a car or a TV. Not paying for gas or cable bills helps... My plan is pretty much to work until I die unless I get hired by UPS or something.
What kind of flight school did you go to?
Old 05-07-2013 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
This discussion illustrates just one more of the many costs of a (civil) aviation career, and one that most are unaware of...

All these financials gurus will tell you that the key to long-term financial success/security is to minimize debt early and start saving as soon as you enter the work force. The power of investment appreciation over time cannot be understated, but most pilots barely have money for student loans and ramen in the early years, thus losing out that vital build-up of assets when it counts the most. It's like starting a takeoff roll halfway down the runway so that V1/VR is somewhere in the approach lights off the departure end...

Financial planning in aviation is similar to that practiced by powerball players...hope you grab the brass ring (the purple or brown one).

Yes. Rickair and I seem to be pretty much on the same page here.

I really encourage people to flight train at cheaper flight schools and avoid the big dollar institutions. Again this is life changing debt. I had military benefits so I came out with money in the bank. It cost me a few years, but it can be done. There are also good paying freight gigs, too. Freight may or may not top out at Senior RJ capt rates, but freight starts decent usually.

If someone wants to go to big dollar schools, fine. But, realize the implications of your decision. Be smart with your money! Don't just automatically major in aviation at XYZ Big Name Flight School without careful consideration.
Old 05-07-2013 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by block30
What kind of flight school did you go to?
My bachelors degree cost me a lot more than my flight training. Most of the debt is from college. Not flight school.

Flight school was a mix of part 61 and part 141. I didn't do all of my ratings in the same place.
Old 05-07-2013 | 08:54 PM
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I flew with a guy a couple months ago that had a $1200 a month student loan payment. -- That's a house payment. It's around half of his take home pay. Lives in his parents basement. He's been here at SkyWest over 5 years.
Old 05-07-2013 | 08:55 PM
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I flew with a guy a couple months ago that had a $1200 a month student loan payment. -- That's a house payment. It's around half of his take home pay. Lives in his parents basement. He's been here at SkyWest over 5 years.

He is clearly not doing something right.
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