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Old 07-31-2015, 09:06 PM   #11  
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Sapa gang needs some ointment
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:17 PM   #12  
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How do the north korea type actions from sapa not prove to the general membership that sapa is a management trojan horse and that the horse needs to be put down and real respresentation needs to be brought in.

Does this forum shut down not convince even the most die hard pro company pro sapa guys that it is all a lie?
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:29 PM   #13  
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Complete BS. JP yanks the plug as his last action on the night that one of the SKW greats has passed on? At least open up a thread for ML to make sure this recieves the full attention of the pilot group it deserves.
Is there a justification given anywhere on the site for shutting the forum down?

Disregard, just read the explanation, BS!
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:31 PM   #14  
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Ya know if sapa really is for the pilots and not just a management shill, then they really need some outside consultants, cause everything they do, they do like $hit
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Is there a justification given anywhere on the site for shutting the forum down?
No but it appears to be a possible Costa Concordia move, abandon ship, we are sinking.......oh wait, didnt the captain get off first on that one?........oooh, wait.....if they abandon ship, we have no representation......well we never really did!

Goodbye sapa! I hope you are trying to tell us goodbye with this move.
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Can we really trust the results of the vote? I mean you hold all the keys, and you just proved it.
Who administers the vote?



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If we showed up in slc to plead our case to those kids, we would be terminated.

Would they really fire you for this? Couldn't you do it at the hotel? At xjt, the ALPA membership committee is given half a day during indoc to counsel the new hires.
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SAPA Sucks.
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I personally also thought the forums were getting a bit out of hand. At the same time I think we need a place where the pilot group can discuss things like the pay package. Silencing the forums right before the sends a pretty nasty message.

Also unrelated to the pay vote, most of what I know about PBS I learned from reading through threads on the SAPA forums where people posted questions, posted their bids for critique, and posted about mistakes they made with their bid. With a system controlling our lives that is as complicated and mis-understood as PBS we really need some place where pilots can ask questions to the masses.

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Re forums: That guy went way out of line. It is ok to disagree with someone, it is not ok to post pictures of ones house. What's next, posting pictures of his kids going to school ? Not cool. Says more about your persona.

I understand what he was trying to do, that is not how you do it. Not ok.

That said he should have been banned. Forum should remain open.

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ALPA shut down our forum at Delta. The lifers in the DALPA office hated free thought and free speech.

We started our own forum and it has been an overwhelming success.

We rejected a joke of a contract and are now recalling the Yes voting reps.

I think they would all agree shutting down our forum was the biggest mistake they have ever made.

Social media was also extremely effective in rejecting the substandard agreement and recalling those who do not represent our best interests.

Good luck attaining what you so richly deserve.
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