You mean, 5 years, right? Haha.


Also, 7 years of what Endeavor is offering is FAARRRR better than 5 years of the shameful maneuver heap that you guys sacrificed an arm and a herd of bulls for.... :rolleyes:


Also, Air Wisconsin is one among many non-wholly owneds nowadays paying close or matching what Endeavor's TA proposes for hard, fixed rates (it's in bonuses, but with this move on the part of Endeavor it could propagate a paradigm shift in regional airline pay).

FO pay looked good. captain pay... blaaa should be better.. was only $3 more there ours at my scale...

At least their company came forth with an actual proposal versus the turd they gave us (still shake my head on how it passed).

Gratz to the 9E pilot group.

So they no longer get bonuses. So i would like to see what our “rate” would be with our bonus structure in our pay scales...(update. Quick math tell me $8 a hour..)

I’m not trying to attack you at all.

However, I would have preferred better pay rates versus bonuses that are influenced by many outside factors. Just my 2 cents though.

I agree. Bonuses are nice in good times. But a safe route would be having them in the Scale...

Which is exactly why they are not in the scale...that would NOT be safe for the company, this way they can shed labor compensation obligations if profits are down.

This. SKW was a pretty good place to work about ten years ago. Now it's just a half-way decent place to build jet PIC.

At a regional you have to be either cheap or productive. If you're not, someone else will be.

Add WestAir and Air Wisconsin, they were full of career types who got comfortable. WestAir was the first UAX I believe, was bought by MAG and next thing you know, shutdown.

Figures. You still aren't going to admit that we got hosed on our pay package.

Managements big argument for the pay package was that all those bonuses were temporary and would be vanishing soon. Well they were right the bonuses did go away..went directly into their hourly rate. I would LOVE to see them make their new pay comparison charts of where we fall now.
I know you are a company guy and all but at least have the stones to admit it.

Also please don't calculate your bonus into an hourly rate. Remember, you and your friends in management didn't do that with the other regionals bonuses when it was time to compare pay so don't do it now. Our bonuses are not all guaranteed.