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Old 01-04-2017, 06:54 PM
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My brothers friend told me he heard from his cousins ex who has it on good authority from her friend, who used to work mx there, that he talked to old coworkers who told him that they heard BOI is supposed to open the same day as Honolulu..which they swear is supposed to be any day now I guess.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:58 AM
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I think it's a legit rumor along with DFW. I think we just need more 175s to justify opening it up. Maybe if we pick up even more CRJ flying for AA we'll see DFW open up. Who knows.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:03 AM
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Does ASA still have a DFW domicile?
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
And the reason they leave the battery master off with gound power on. Is so the plane just goes dark if it fails or gets pulled.. no adg drop..
No ADG on any airplane drops while on the ground. Nice try though. They only drop in flight with the loss of all AC power. With your logic it would drop every time airplane is completely shut down for the night.

Battery master switch should always be off while on ground power without the APU running in the event ground power is pulled or fails and no one is on the airplane to prevent draining the batteries.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:04 PM
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No ADG on any airplane drops while on the ground. Nice try though. They only drop in flight with the loss of all AC power. With your logic it would drop every time airplane is completely shut down for the night.

Battery master switch should always be off while on ground power without the APU running in the event ground power is pulled or fails and no one is on the airplane to prevent draining the batteries.
ADG drops if all power is lost IF parking break is dropped and last source of AC power was INTERNAL. So if the plane was powered down wrong and left in chocks the ADG will drop. Urban legend that a ramper was pulling the cord and the parking break was off and the ramper was impaled by the ADG.

So yes it can happen, that's y parking brake is on the safety check before powering up anything
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tippy View Post
ADG drops if all power is lost IF parking break is dropped and last source of AC power was INTERNAL. So if the plane was powered down wrong and left in chocks the ADG will drop. Urban legend that a ramper was pulling the cord and the parking break was off and the ramper was impaled by the ADG.

So yes it can happen, that's y parking brake is on the safety check before powering up anything
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:09 PM
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:42 PM
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What im saying is MX leaves the batt master off and AC external in.. this way if it fails. The airplane goes dark. (Everyone knows the ADG won't drop on external power...) And the battery's dont die or the screens on bat power more then 5 mins... they dont watch the airplanes that carfully durring there lunch break..
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by squib View Post
No ADG on any airplane drops while on the ground. Nice try though. They only drop in flight with the loss of all AC power. With your logic it would drop every time airplane is completely shut down for the night.

Battery master switch should always be off while on ground power without the APU running in the event ground power is pulled or fails and no one is on the airplane to prevent draining the batteries.
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ADG drops if all power is lost IF parking break is dropped and last source of AC power was INTERNAL. So if the plane was powered down wrong and left in chocks the ADG will drop. Urban legend that a ramper was pulling the cord and the parking break was off and the ramper was impaled by the ADG.

So yes it can happen, that's y parking brake is on the safety check before powering up anything
The ADG used to drop on the ground on a regular basis. SKW had bombardier add the parking brake to the logic, so it should never drop with the brake on.

I still am very careful about the power-down sequence because I'm not sure if the logic comes from the position of the brake handle or from the actual "PARKING BRAKE ON" bit. The bit is only set when the brakes are actually pressurized so it's possible to have the handle set but no brakes or advisory message if the hydraulics are off...and you turn the hydraulics off during the terminating flow.

Same reason you may not get the acars out time when you drop the brake if the 3B pump is off.

Also...I don't know if the brake being in the logic is just a SKW thing, or if all CRJs have been modified. Don't assume this is true at other airliners.

Never leave the plane powered with the battery off, that's a MX (and ramp) procedure only. If you find the airplane powered make sure the battery is on before you go fly. I don't think it will give you any cautions on that.

The ADG couldn't impale anyone, but it could cut you pretty good or give you a nasty bruise.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:43 AM
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What about a DFW base too. I heard a management guy talking about DFW several times.

I am assuming that the reasons I am hearing DFW is because of Envoy getting rid of another 35 planes and only getting 12 ERJs. I think they are moving a lot of their stuff east. ( I understand they committed to 40 175s and have 28, so 12 to go.).

Envoy has 90 more on order but that does not mean they will be the one getting delivery. (A former airline of mine had 50 Airbus orders and 50 options but they were sold just before deliveries were to begin.) Conceivable that the 175s will be sold to Skywest to fly and to allow Envoy to move more assets from DFW and Chicago further east.

Skywest seems to be where the growth is. PSA growth is from Envoy planes moving. Who else is growing? Who else is staffing for growth? TSA has 20 MRJs coming in 2018 if anyone believes that.

All of this is speculation of course but facts are boring.
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