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08-11-2019, 05:05 PM
#181
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,845
Originally Posted by symbian simian
Maybe you need to look up the definition of guarantee. You really think the company should pay line holders above guarantee AND have reserves sitting at home?? Are you going to approve overtime for all the rampers for time spent in the bar? Management is trying to maximize ROI for shareholders, throwing money at the pilots for not working isn't compatible with that.
I’d rather have more productive trips to avoid having to work bonus days to get the credit up. Sure you can get rerouted on a good/crappy trip...but if your trip credit is 22 vs 19.5 all month long the difference is nearly a rigged 2 day.
08-11-2019, 08:51 PM
#182
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,003
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Common misconception at this airline. Reserves sitting at home (or in the crashpad or hotel) ARE working. They are being paid to remain in a state of readiness. Rested, sober, nourished and prepared to get to the airport and be airborne in less than three hours. They are the accumulators of the pilot force - reducing bumps in the system by absorbing surge when necessary. They are the firefighters. The home owners insurance. Their value lies in their very presence and rapid response.
Now if the company chooses to use them for future open time that they don’t want to pay premium for, well... there’s not much we can do about that. We can’t force them to use reserves for the duty reserves should be earmarked for (short notice, rapid response)
Make no mistake. Those reserves ARE at work.
Now if the company chooses to use them for future open time that they don’t want to pay premium for, well... there’s not much we can do about that. We can’t force them to use reserves for the duty reserves should be earmarked for (short notice, rapid response)
Make no mistake. Those reserves ARE at work.
08-12-2019, 01:15 PM
#183
Line holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Common misconception at this airline. Reserves sitting at home (or in the crashpad or hotel) ARE working. They are being paid to remain in a state of readiness. Rested, sober, nourished and prepared to get to the airport and be airborne in less than three hours. They are the accumulators of the pilot force - reducing bumps in the system by absorbing surge when necessary. They are the firefighters. The home owners insurance. Their value lies in their very presence and rapid response.
Now if the company chooses to use them for future open time that they don’t want to pay premium for, well... there’s not much we can do about that. We can’t force them to use reserves for the duty reserves should be earmarked for (short notice, rapid response)
Make no mistake. Those reserves ARE at work.
Now if the company chooses to use them for future open time that they don’t want to pay premium for, well... there’s not much we can do about that. We can’t force them to use reserves for the duty reserves should be earmarked for (short notice, rapid response)
Make no mistake. Those reserves ARE at work.
08-12-2019, 01:51 PM
#184
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,845
Originally Posted by symbian simian
I made no mistake. Paying line holders premium while reserves sit at home is dumb.
08-12-2019, 02:16 PM
#185
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,443
Originally Posted by symbian simian
I made no mistake. Paying line holders premium while reserves sit at home is dumb.
Not true for the reasons zap stated above. Many times scheduling will hold reserves back and pay premium for that very reason.
08-12-2019, 03:53 PM
#186
Line holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Not true for the reasons zap stated above. Many times scheduling will hold reserves back and pay premium for that very reason.
08-14-2019, 11:55 AM
#187
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: Left
Posts: 22
Originally Posted by PowerShift
Here is working your line.
First year 2017 = 76k
Second year 2018 = 104k
Third year 2019 = projected 120k
Good luck getting any open time.
First year 2017 = 76k
Second year 2018 = 104k
Third year 2019 = projected 120k
Good luck getting any open time.
08-14-2019, 12:30 PM
#188
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
Originally Posted by User5004
Is that take home pay after taxes or gross?
08-14-2019, 10:23 PM
#189
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by User5004
Is that take home pay after taxes or gross?
2017 is adjusted, based on a partial year.
2018 is about half on first year, second year pay.
2019 is half second year, third year pay.
That is “just working my line”. I live in base now, but commuting made it impossible for me to pick up extra. If you have no other obligations, such as a family, and can get back from a 3 day, then pick up another 3 day you can do better.
I’ve never had an open time trip awarded to me. BUT, I don’t bid on everything either.
08-15-2019, 03:35 AM
#190
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
In your first year monthly open time is where you are more likely to get something from them company (which pays second year rates which is basically premium). If you don’t mind working st first year pay then you can usually find something from someone else to pick up, slim pickings right now on day / two day trips
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