07Driver

Yes, the SWA Smugness continues.Keep guzzling that, er, KoolAID

and stop taking everything so personally on here..SWA isn't for everyone and there's no reason to be a bag about it....same crap on the SWAPA forum and FB page. You are part of the problem with the "if you don't like it here, leave". First off, I am heavily debating it, secondly, how is this pilot group ever going to move forward with that attitude...that instead of fixing it you tell people to go put their app in somewhere else...so juvenile.
SWA has zits all over it's face...just because she is the first girl to kiss you doesn't mean she is the prettiest. And somebody not liking your airline is not an affront to your manhood...so grow up.

to the OP...it isn't easy...the days are long, the people by you beers, and you will enjoy it, but it isn't all gumdrops and rainbows.

e6bpilot

Yeah and this. I actually agree. It’s a great place to work but it ain’t the only place to work despite what some believe.
It’s just a job and it isn’t for everyone.

SlipKid

Finagling the system is easy for you, since you don't care how many days off you work. You just gotta keep the block down.

It gets a lot more challenging when you try to maximize your pay (10+ TFP per day), because you have to rid yourself of your straight trips before you can start replacing them with premium trips.

It helps if you're senior, and can get weekday turn and 2 day lines that you can give away, but even then, it's a grind and much more work than "the 25th and setting OTAs".

dudemize

Sluggo, you should come to NetJets. I blocked 8 hrs on the 6 day tour I just finished. All during the day. Best of both worlds! You'll be healthy as can be.

You might not be pleased with the paycheck, however.

RJSAviator76

You know what's really juvenile? Whining about not having legacy widebody hourly rates and corresponding work rules at Southwest Airlines, an airline flying exclusively 737's.

Wanna complain about where we actually fall short of our peers, complain about what happens to you should you go out on a long-term medical; or about not getting paid out your sick leave bank when you retire; or about how lax we are about seniority in many aspects of our professional career here (open time, vacation, nonrev travel, etc.). Talk about the damage done to this group by the swaPULLies and educate the up-and-coming crowd so that the history doesn't repeat itself... Highlight the true shortfalls. Sorry, but money/work rules aren't it.

terminal

I left for some of those reasons

07Driver

sent you a pm

SlipKid

Thank you! I rest my case...... I'm glad to see you finally admit it.

Oh, and refuting your misleading claims is not whining. Some of us actually understand that, for better or worse, SW is not a legacy career.

I've been highlighting these and many other shortfalls of a career at SW for over 2 decades. It falls on deaf ears, especially when it comes time to vote on concessions. Every vote is like groundhog day.

Wanna know who to blame? Look to your left, because there's an 80%+ chance that they voted YES! on every concession you're complaining about right now.

The good news is that it is (glacially) getting better. I hope we, as a group, start getting more aware, but I am not gonna hold my breath. The last TA1 vote had WAY too many yes votes, and it was an old school, concession ridden SWApA screw job.


Wait, didn't you just say:

"Whining about not having legacy widebody hourly rates and corresponding work rules at Southwest Airlines, an airline flying exclusively 737's."

Which is it? Oh, that's right. I can fly an extra week every month, like you do, to break even with my peer at a legacy.

RJSAviator76

OK, I'll bite... what's your career at Southwest worth so far? Throw in everything along with how many days on average you work.


Agreed there and I think TA2 also had WAY too many YES votes as well.



Come on Slip... you're smarter than that. Hourly rates don't give the whole picture and you know it. You also know you don't have to work a week extra to make what your narrowbody legacy peer makes.

Using your own post...


That's actually 44.48 TFP over a year period. It'd be interesting to see the true comparison.

Typhoondiver

Just another data point. Second year guy, average work days for the year 14, average TFP per month 113. Will avoid weekend at all cost, thus no premium pickup on the weekend. Time spent on computer, medium. Line tuner helps a lot, but sometimes my favorite wednesday start is gone by the time I log in. Flew all wednesday to friday 3-day trips in september. No flying over vacation. When my wife asks me to get certain days off, so far it has always worked out. I personally think there is no other job that pays like this allowing that much flexibility. Live in domicile and life should be good at any mainline carrier. But I am tired after a 25 TFP paying 3-day. So the money ain't for free. That's why I balance the month with high and low paying trips. A 19.5 here and there is my requirement to stay healthy, get the workout in, or wander to the beach. It's a great time for pilots as you actially have a choice!