Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Southwest
Southwest flying to Hawaii.... >

Southwest flying to Hawaii....

Search
Notices

Southwest flying to Hawaii....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-10-2017, 07:56 AM
  #41  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,277
Default

Originally Posted by flyguy81 View Post
It's roughly 2,900 mi from Den-Hnl. Max 8 has a range of roughly 3,500 mi.

UAL is ramping up the HI flights in DEN so it all depends on if they want to compete on the route with UAL flying 757, 777, and 787's.
Won't be even close to making it in the Winter with the headwinds. In addition you may need decompression fuel adding weight.
sailingfun is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 07:18 PM
  #42  
Holding
 
G4IND's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Position: Bus Driver
Posts: 126
Default

https://twitter.com/SouthwestAir/sta...13516892938240

For those that didn't hear already...
G4IND is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 07:20 PM
  #43  
Strike averted!
 
at6d's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,656
Default

Just watched Gary say it.
at6d is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 07:32 PM
  #44  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 17
Default

when?

routes?
utahpilot is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 08:30 PM
  #45  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 997
Default

Originally Posted by utahpilot View Post
when?

routes?
More importantly ETOPS?
PNWFlyer is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 08:45 PM
  #46  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 26
Default

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
We pack em' in there pretty good. We carry 12 more people than Alaska does on a -800. I've always heard you can carry people or you can carry cargo to Hawaii... but not both. And you need cargo to make money because of the aforementioned frequent flier awards.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
175 on the 800 westbound is a problem. I see Hawaii being all MAX.
augustwest is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 09:13 PM
  #47  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,453
Default

Originally Posted by augustwest View Post
175 on the 800 westbound is a problem. I see Hawaii being all MAX.

ETOPS 800s to begin with and then primarily Max aircraft is what I have heard.
It’s 2,300 miles from LA to HNL, even less from Oakland. It always blows my mind how folks think it is so far. It’s basically a transcon worth of flying. It is less distance than BWI-SAN and we somehow manage that with a full boat of people.
e6bpilot is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 09:40 PM
  #48  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 508
Default

Originally Posted by e6bpilot View Post
ETOPS 800s to begin with and then primarily Max aircraft is what I have heard.
It’s 2,300 miles from LA to HNL, even less from Oakland. It always blows my mind how folks think it is so far. It’s basically a transcon worth of flying. It is less distance than BWI-SAN and we somehow manage that with a full boat of people.
Lot's of places to divert between BWI and SAN should you lose an engine however..
Burton78 is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 09:47 PM
  #49  
Gets Weekends Off
 
WHACKMASTER's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,617
Default

Originally Posted by Burton78 View Post
Lot's of places to divert between BWI and SAN should you lose an engine however..
Exactly. It’s not the equivalent of a transcon. For example, a decompression at your ETP and now you have to fly the next 2.5 hours at 10,000’.

Don’t forget to factor in APU burn as well because on the 737 that needs to be run CONTINOUSLY for ETOPS as a third source of electrical power being that we don’t have a RAT.
WHACKMASTER is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 11:03 PM
  #50  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,195
Default

Originally Posted by e6bpilot View Post
ETOPS 800s to begin with and then primarily Max aircraft is what I have heard.
It’s 2,300 miles from LA to HNL, even less from Oakland. It always blows my mind how folks think it is so far. It’s basically a transcon worth of flying. It is less distance than BWI-SAN and we somehow manage that with a full boat of people.
As was alluded to... go BWI to SAN, but decend to 10k' and shut one down over LBB. You have to carry the gas to do it, then you can take people and all their free bags. Throw in an alternate to really make it fun.
Grumble is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
CRJAV8OR
Major
0
03-08-2012 09:07 AM
Hal9000
Major
37
05-18-2011 01:29 PM
dd89
Flight Schools and Training
34
08-23-2009 11:08 AM
Rabid Seagull
Major
1
05-26-2009 03:18 PM
captain_drew
Major
0
04-14-2005 02:52 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices