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Old 02-09-2019 | 02:06 PM
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I never put my type ratings in my log book since they were all sim rides. I've got my training records from all my type rides, but not logged in chronological order with the rest of my actual flight time. (I've never been in the practice of logging sim time.)

The kicker is that I took my ATP ride along with a type ride in the simulator, so that "event" never got logged, either.

I would certainly provide the training records, but any suggestions for how to handle the fact that those events are not in chronological order in my paper logbook?

Would adding them to my digital logbook that I will print out suffice?
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Old 02-09-2019 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SlipperyWing
I never put my type ratings in my log book since they were all sim rides. I've got my training records from all my type rides, but not logged in chronological order with the rest of my actual flight time. (I've never been in the practice of logging sim time.)

The kicker is that I took my ATP ride along with a type ride in the simulator, so that "event" never got logged, either.

I would certainly provide the training records, but any suggestions for how to handle the fact that those events are not in chronological order in my paper logbook?

Would adding them to my digital logbook that I will print out suffice?

I took my ATP ride in an actual airplane so that wasn't an issue. However, like you, I didn't log much sim time during my regional 121 days. Lucky for me, at the end of each year, I skipped to the next page, leaving me some blank lines at the end of each year. I went back and added my PCs/LOEs etc at the end of each year. So not chronological exactly. Wasn't an issue. If you don't have the space to add it, doing the digital logbook might be a good option. Although I would want them to match as much as possible. There's nothing in the FAR's that says your flights/logged time has to be chronological. You could put a page at the end for SIM. or You could even get a separate logbook for your SIM time, but this might seem a little off the wall. I don't think they really care that much. Just, like others have said, that you have the minimum requirements and stuff doesn't look suspicious.
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Old 02-09-2019 | 07:21 PM
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You guys are going way too deep. Bring you documents they ask for, logbooks, and be ready to find the "milestones" in there. I never had an electronic logbook, so I brought 4 handwritten logbooks with bookmarked checkrides, 1000 TPIC (it was required back then), and few others (I can't remember exactly). I never logged sims or type rides, but marked first dates, or IOEs in each type I had, including upgrade OE. It was not even necessary but is a quick reference that confirms you resume. Nobody asked about 121 rides and I had no records, ATP certificate is the proof. Relax and don't panic if they ask a question you did not prepare the answer to. They wanna see if you know what's in your logbook. If it's really yours, you should have no problem finding the stuff. Good luck, it's not that hard!
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Old 02-13-2019 | 04:53 AM
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What was the logbook review like for military guys? Do you need to bring the whole green HARM folder or just the single-page summary sheet on top of your own logbook (e- or paper)? Do you need to bring the FEF with all your checkride Form 8s? My e-logbook has all my milestones (check rides, A/C upgrade, IP cert, etc) entered in the remarks column - is that sufficient?

I'm probably overthinking this, but I'd hate to show up and be told "prove to me you upgraded to A/C on the C-17 on this date", and be caught without the right documentation.
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Old 02-13-2019 | 05:58 AM
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I remember it being pretty clear what to put in the stacks if read carefully. I had the form from my FEF with all my checkrides. I had the flight time summary from my flight records. I made a spreadsheet with all the times they asked for specifically with the time conversions, just to make it easier to answer questions about how many hours in each of the last 3-5 years.
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Old 02-13-2019 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SEAtoSummit
I'm probably overthinking this, but I'd hate to show up and be told "prove to me you upgraded to A/C on the C-17 on this date", and be caught without the right documentation.
I cannot speak to the military aspect of the logbook review however I can almost certainly say that the questioning is not like this. For me, they just browsed my logbook, saw how I logged time, checked the required tabbed information etc. They more cross reference your resume (dates, places) with your flying records.

For me, it was ok you were hired by this airline on this date... They then thumbed to something around that date and saw logged time in CRJs, and then moved on. Its just an overall check that what you have submitted makes logical sense and is mostly accurate. Nothing really to sweat.
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Old 02-14-2019 | 02:30 AM
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To echo what others have said. It was very laid back and more of a conversation about your life and background. Just tab all the events that they ask you for and the breakdown of hours they require over a time period. I think my logbook review was probably 15 minutes.
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Old 02-14-2019 | 06:50 AM
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Has anybody gone into the logbook interview with only their electronic logbook? If so, how did that go? I have 6 regular logbooks, but the electronic book is much more professional-looking IMO. Thanks!
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Old 02-14-2019 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbird79
Has anybody gone into the logbook interview with only their electronic logbook? If so, how did that go? I have 6 regular logbooks, but the electronic book is much more professional-looking IMO. Thanks!
I went in with all of my logbooks tabbed and labeled (Logbook #1, Logbook #2, etc.). I highligted and tabbed all the important accomplishments (first solo, Private Pilot checkride, type rides, etc.). I think being able to see those events in a historical progression helps them get to know you and your progress in aviation. An electronic logbook is very professional looking, but it makes you look more like a number instead of a person, IMO.

That being said, I also have an electronic logbook that matched my old-school paper logbooks. I took a printout of the summary from my electronic logbook and mentioned that I have the printed electronic logbook with me as well. They only looked at my paper logbooks and the breakdown of the info they asked for. It was very low stress and just a conversation about my flying experience and history. 10-15 minutes.
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Old 02-14-2019 | 07:49 AM
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I had all my regular logbooks and I had all of them in electronic log. Brought them all. I tabbed everything they asked for. I had 1 checkride failure and retake tabbed as well as ATP and every type ride, and also when I hit 1,000 TPIC.

Your logbook review portion is done by a line pilot. Make it easy on him/her. Have your annual totals going back 5 years.

We talked about my logbook maybe 5 mins and spent the rest shooting the breeze about Southwest and what to expect as a new hire. It was very laid back.

Like I said, make it easy on the interviewer - they are all line pilots here.
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