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TCASTESTOK 05-14-2018 07:43 AM

Yet another depressurization
 
Southwest flight makes emergency landing after cabin loses pressure - Business Insider

Whats with this spike in losses of cabin pressure and emergency landings? 3 emergency landings in a month. If this record keeps on the uptick then SWA might end up like Allegiant, perhaps with its own 60 minutes special. I think if that happened the centerpiece on the special would be the violations by SWA mx a few years back.

Peacock 05-14-2018 07:57 AM

Yet another meaning two? Why not just say “another”

MarkVI 05-14-2018 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2593616)
Southwest flight makes emergency landing after cabin loses pressure - Business Insider

Whats with this spike in losses of cabin pressure and emergency landings? 3 emergency landings in a month. If this record keeps on the uptick then SWA might end up like Allegiant, perhaps with its own 60 minutes special. I think if that happened the centerpiece on the special would be the violations by SWA mx a few years back.



Gross overstatement of the facts. Southwest is by leaps and bounds ahead of Allegiant in a wide variety of safety metrics. The real question is why all of the sudden does the media feel the need to front-page every squawk that WN goes through?

“A LOSS OF CABIN PRESSURE WHERE NO ONE WAS INJURED AND THE CREW DID EXACTLY AS TRAINED? GASP!”

Please. The media is over inflating issues, exactly like they did last year with United. Southwest is perfectly fine, the media just wants ratings.


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Twinjetav8r 05-14-2018 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by MarkVI (Post 2593742)
Gross overstatement of the facts. Southwest is by leaps and bounds ahead of Allegiant in a wide variety of safety metrics. The real question is why all of the sudden does the media feel the need to front-page every squawk that WN goes through?

“A LOSS OF CABIN PRESSURE WHERE NO ONE WAS INJURED AND THE CREW DID EXACTLY AS TRAINED? GASP!”

Please. The media is over inflating issues, exactly like they did last year with United. Southwest is perfectly fine, the media just wants ratings.


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Exactly. I expect the next headline for a weather diversion to be “SW almost ran out of fuel. They had to go to another airport.” Please. Just go away.


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ReadyRsv 05-14-2018 12:08 PM

Uh, loss of pressurization is a bit different than making a tech stop. One of those is an emergency!

tomgoodman 05-14-2018 12:26 PM

Gosh, I hope we don’t have yet another ice age! :eek:

dawgdriver 05-14-2018 02:28 PM

SWA is far from 60 Minutes episodes and comparisons to Allegiant, but if there was ever a time to settle the contract with their mechanics, now would be the time.

5 years without a contract with a relatively small, however highly influential labor group is pushing one's luck, especially at a time when SWA is squarely in the media crosshairs. Add to that a revenue management department that has added flights, allowing maintenance less access time to repair aircraft due to later PM arrivals and earlier AM starts. The fleet is aging and the increased cycles will take their toll. SWA should be adding more quality mechanics with in house quality training. At 3.3 mechanics per plane (UAL 11.3 and AA 7.7) SWA should consider itself lean enough, but instead looks to further reduce the count to 2.7? In an industry that struggles to staff its ranks with the dwindling number of mechanics, this seems odd.

rickair7777 05-14-2018 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Peacock (Post 2593632)
Yet another meaning two? Why not just say “another”


Another what? Garden variety loss of cabin pressure? That is not really an event, not to be compared with loss of cabin pressure associated with the cabin being penetrated by uncontained engine parts.

I've had three of the former in my 121 career, put the mask on, descend to 10K, take the mask off, start figuring out how much range you have and where to go. The trick is to beat the masks to 14K. The masks will scare the beejezus out of the pax.

TCASTESTOK 05-14-2018 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2593921)
Another what? Garden variety loss of cabin pressure? That is not really an event, not to be compared with loss of cabin pressure associated with the cabin being penetrated by uncontained engine parts.

I've had three of the former in my 121 career, put the mask on, descend to 10K, take the mask off, start figuring out how much range you have and where to go. The trick is to beat the masks to 14K. The masks will scare the beejezus out of the pax.

What do you mean by beat the masks to 14k? do you mean get below 10k before cabin alt reaches 14 and the masks drop or beat the time limit on the mask o2 generators?

Peacock 05-14-2018 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2593963)
What do you mean by beat the masks to 14k? do you mean get below 10k before cabin alt reaches 14 and the masks drop or beat the time limit on the mask o2 generators?

Are you a pilot?


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