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03-27-2019, 01:03 PM

#171

Rolf

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Are you saying the feeders have had no impact on pilot wages?
Fix your scope.
And to the JS, the IT failures embarrass me, but you don’t really believe SWA owns SWAPA and Jon do you? You can’t acknowledge other unions have done good.

03-27-2019, 01:12 PM

#172

Smokey23

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Originally Posted by deus ex machina

As I said.. the issue is jumpseat access but you guys gotta find something to shine... so you bring up scope.

How does DAL scope effect a SWA pilot? It doesn't. How does SWA jumpeat IT effect a DAL pilot... very much so... we good?

Tell you what, tough guy, we'll try to get SWAPA to spend some negotiating capital on better jumpseat access...how about YOU get DALPA to spend some negotiating capital on adding a 2nd jumpseat to all your 737s?

03-27-2019, 01:16 PM

#173

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Originally Posted by Smokey23

Dude.... you don't need to spend neg capital to compel your company to reciprocate access... you just shame them into doing it. Why? because it's the right thing for SWA management to do. It's very easy for you guys to get to work on us. That is a SWA management win.

What is wrong with the first and second js in our 75/76 and Triples? Are you myopic to only think 737? Wait, don't answer that.

03-27-2019, 03:46 PM

#174

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Originally Posted by deus ex machina

Dude.... you don't need to spend neg capital to compel your company to reciprocate access... you just shame them into doing it.

Why of course, Dude, we should just SHAME them into doing it! <palm to forehead> How did we not think of that one! Yes, yes....SHAME them into doing it! Because SHAME is a HUGELY effective motivational tool when dealing with tight-fisted management that have about two dozen other major IT projects in the que ahead of simplifying our less-than-OAL-pilot-friendly jumpseat procedures.

Truly, I am engaging with genius....or perhaps General Lee.

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Why? because it's the right thing for SWA management to do. It's very easy for you guys to get to work on us. That is a SWA management win.

What is wrong with the first and second js in our 75/76 and Triples? Are you myopic to only think 737? Wait, don't answer that.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time I do an international or transcon jumpseat (basically never.) When it comes to real-world commutes, more than likely it will be on a N/B.

03-27-2019, 04:07 PM

#175

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Originally Posted by Smokey23

Classic SWA... doesn't want to do the right thing for his fellow professional pilots (DAL/UAL, etc) because he doesn't have the balls to confront his beloved management...

Thanks, guess we will just get left at the gate while we watch SWA jets pushback with empty jumpseats...

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Originally Posted by Smokey23

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time I do an international or transcon jumpseat (basically never.) When it comes to real-world commutes, more than likely it will be on a N/B.

So it's all about you? Not your fellow SWA pilots that might need that transcon js or int'l travel?

The most amazed jumpseaters I see are SWA pilots jumpseating int'l sitting in first class... it's like an entire different world that Big Daddy SWA management never told them about all while telling them SWA world is the best and greatest...

At least we aren't talking about scope anymore...