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Profane Kahuna 05-19-2021 04:18 PM

Hiring has recommenced.....

TapRack 05-19-2021 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3237370)
Hiring has recommenced.....

Yep! Had a voicemail today. I was a previous CJO that was rescinded.

Grumpyaviator 05-19-2021 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by TapRack;[url=tel:3237372
3237372[/url]]Yep! Had a voicemail today. I was a previous CJO that was rescinded.

That’s awesome, all the best to you!

ZapBrannigan 05-19-2021 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3237372)
Yep! Had a voicemail today. I was a previous CJO that was rescinded.


That's great!! Congrats! Any idea when you start? (Assuming you're still interested)


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sMFer 05-19-2021 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3237372)
Yep! Had a voicemail today. I was a previous CJO that was rescinded.


Fantastic. Sorry they put you through that. Wouldn’t be surprised if many in your group have moved on.

TapRack 05-20-2021 02:36 AM

Thank you, everyone! Not sure when they're looking to bring everyone on by, but an email said possible July meetings via Zoom. A friend mentioned he heard maybe October-December-ish timeframes for classes, but I haven't seen/heard anything from SWA on that.

Crockrocket95 05-20-2021 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3237562)
Thank you, everyone! Not sure when they're looking to bring everyone on by, but an email said possible July meetings via Zoom. A friend mentioned he heard maybe October-December-ish timeframes for classes, but I haven't seen/heard anything from SWA on that.


Heck yeah. Hope you're on property soon!

ZapBrannigan 05-20-2021 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Crockrocket95 (Post 3237645)
Heck yeah. Hope you're on property soon!


Yeah or at Delta or UPS or FedEx... whatever works best for you. They can't expect people to sit by their phones hoping for a phone call for the next six months.


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CA1900 05-20-2021 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3237653)
Yeah or at Delta or UPS or FedEx... whatever works best for you. They can't expect people to sit by their phones hoping for a phone call for the next six months.

Absolutely, don't lock onto one company. I like it here, but I know it's not the only great job out there. SWA shot down a friend of mine just before COVID -- he's now a UPS 747 FO!

WHACKMASTER 05-20-2021 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by CA1900 (Post 3237659)
Absolutely, don't lock onto one company. I like it here, but I know it's not the only great job out there. SWA shot down a friend of mine just before COVID -- he's now a UPS 747 FO!

LUCKY!!!!!

Zard 05-20-2021 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3237372)
Yep! Had a voicemail today. I was a previous CJO that was rescinded.

Are you (and other peeps in the same boat) re-interviewing, or are your CJOs being honored?

hoover 05-20-2021 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by CA1900 (Post 3237659)
Absolutely, don't lock onto one company. I like it here, but I know it's not the only great job out there. SWA shot down a friend of mine just before COVID -- he's now a UPS 747 FO!

exact same thing with a guy I interviewed with. The next month he was hired by UPS. In fact of the 8 of those interviewed with me 4 got the CJO and only I showed up for class.
I didnt have a CJO anywhere else though but I didnt really apply anywhere else.
this was before the hiring really opened up everywhere

Proximity 05-20-2021 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3237747)
exact same thing with a guy I interviewed with. The next month he was hired by UPS. In fact of the 8 of those interviewed with me 4 got the CJO and only I showed up for class.

App window will open soon I bet once they figure out how many prev CJO holders are still interested.

TapRack 05-20-2021 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Zard (Post 3237688)
Are you (and other peeps in the same boat) re-interviewing, or are your CJOs being honored?

CJO is being honored, mostly. Gonna be a brief rundown of changes, and then sounds like offered a class date if all goes well. Definitely NOT the full-blown interview!

at6d 05-20-2021 09:31 AM

No matter what class date they give you, call and ask for an earlier class!

Zard 05-20-2021 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3237764)
CJO is being honored, mostly. Gonna be a brief rundown of changes, and then sounds like offered a class date if all goes well. Definitely NOT the full-blown interview!

Good to see they're doing the right thing, even if they wouldn't promise to back at the beginning of this silliness.

jetset 05-20-2021 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3237764)
CJO is being honored, mostly. Gonna be a brief rundown of changes, and then sounds like offered a class date if all goes well. Definitely NOT the full-blown interview!

how many CJOs were there?

TapRack 05-20-2021 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by jetset (Post 3237846)
how many CJOs were there?

No idea, actually. A handful from my group that I know of. Really glad to see they're offering another shot!

TapRack 05-22-2021 04:44 AM

Soooo I suppose I feel a bit silly asking, given how insane 2020 was and how current conditions are, but do you all still see OAK and BWI as the junior bases? With all the early outs and everything else, any ideas which bases may be first obtainable? Obviously, I've got quite a bit of time to kill between now and then (and I still have to get the CJO back). I'm so out of the loop after this last year. Is DEN still expanding a lot?

Smooth at FL450 05-22-2021 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3238645)
Soooo I suppose I feel a bit silly asking, given how insane 2020 was and how current conditions are, but do you all still see OAK and BWI as the junior bases? With all the early outs and everything else, any ideas which bases may be first obtainable? Obviously, I've got quite a bit of time to kill between now and then (and I still have to get the CJO back). I'm so out of the loop after this last year. Is DEN still expanding a lot?

LAX and OAK are the junior bases with most of the recent growth being in the etops bid groups. So much so that we’ve had several displacements into these bases and the current flight attendant hiring window is targeted towards California residents only. Who knows what things will look like in a few months, but currently there are a lot of unhappy commuters.

TapRack 05-22-2021 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 3238649)
LAX and OAK are the junior bases with most of the recent growth being in the etops bid groups. So much so that we’ve had several displacements into these bases and the current flight attendant hiring window is targeted towards California residents only. Who knows what things will look like in a few months, but currently there are a lot of unhappy commuters.

Ouch, yeah, that would be a pain for lots of folks no doubt. Thanks for the info!

flyguy81 05-22-2021 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by TapRack (Post 3238645)
Soooo I suppose I feel a bit silly asking, given how insane 2020 was and how current conditions are, but do you all still see OAK and BWI as the junior bases? With all the early outs and everything else, any ideas which bases may be first obtainable? Obviously, I've got quite a bit of time to kill between now and then (and I still have to get the CJO back). I'm so out of the loop after this last year. Is DEN still expanding a lot?

DEN is forecast to explode late this year/next Spring when the 16 gates are finished

TapRack 05-23-2021 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3239024)
DEN is forecast to explode late this year/next Spring when the 16 gates are finished

Great to hear, thanks!

RJSAviator76 05-23-2021 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3239024)
DEN is forecast to explode late this year/next Spring when the 16 gates are finished

But no hiring or upgrades, right Eeyore? ;)

ZapBrannigan

ZapBrannigan 05-23-2021 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3239120)
But no hiring or upgrades, right Eeyore? ;)

ZapBrannigan


I'm still pumping money into my furlough fund. Aren't you? https://media1.giphy.com/media/VJCBW...yPpS/giphy.gif


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RJSAviator76 05-23-2021 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3239230)
I'm still pumping money into my furlough fund. Aren't you? https://media1.giphy.com/media/VJCBW...yPpS/giphy.gif


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... but you’re complaining about JA or reroute which nets you more money? ;)

ZapBrannigan 05-23-2021 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3239250)
... but you’re complaining about JA or reroute which nets you more money? ;)


True. But when mama starts complaining that I'm not home for whatever obligations I promised but failed to deliver, then I am officially at the in the dog house, and no amount of JA or reroute pay solves that problem.

If I were a single man or had a less demanding spouse, I'd be much more motivated by JA money.


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ROFF 05-23-2021 12:41 PM

Dude you should take some of that furlough fund and buy yourself a fun toy.

Then stop worrying about this job.

ZapBrannigan 05-23-2021 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by ROFF (Post 3239313)
Dude you should take some of that furlough fund and buy yourself a fun toy.

Then stop worrying about this job.


Mama says no toys. Sprinkles are for winners.
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flensr 05-23-2021 02:06 PM

We'll get a contract a week after training tells the board we can't fill new-hire training classes because of a lack of well qualified applicants. Later that day, the hiring guys will get sacked because obviously they're the ones losing us money that week. Then when SWAPA previews their billboard discussing in detail the new lower new-hire standards, Dave Ramsey will go on the air calling us greedy rats. That's how we'll know we've won, and the TA that drops a month later will only be 5-10% below industry standard.

Duker 05-23-2021 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 3239342)
We'll get a contract a week after training tells the board we can't fill new-hire training classes because of a lack of well qualified applicants. Later that day, the hiring guys will get sacked because obviously they're the ones losing us money that week. Then when SWAPA previews their billboard discussing in detail the new lower new-hire standards, Dave Ramsey will go on the air calling us greedy rats. That's how we'll know we've won, and the TA that drops a month later will only be 5-10% below industry standard.

You can see the future.......

Mozam 05-24-2021 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 3239342)
We'll get a contract a week after training tells the board we can't fill new-hire training classes because of a lack of well qualified applicants. Later that day, the hiring guys will get sacked because obviously they're the ones losing us money that week. Then when SWAPA previews their billboard discussing in detail the new lower new-hire standards, Dave Ramsey will go on the air calling us greedy rats. That's how we'll know we've won, and the TA that drops a month later will only be 5-10% below industry standard.


You left out 84 percent will vote yes. 38 percent will vote for anything giving to them . :)

RJSAviator76 05-24-2021 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3239322)
Mama says no toys. Sprinkles are for winners.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/1jY6Y...4lvb/giphy.gif


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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3239307)
True. But when mama starts complaining that I'm not home for whatever obligations I promised but failed to deliver, then I am officially at the in the dog house, and no amount of JA or reroute pay solves that problem.

If I were a single man or had a less demanding spouse, I'd be much more motivated by JA money.


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Geez... I think I’ll go hug my wife and say a thank you prayer or ten.

Zard 05-24-2021 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3239462)
Geez... I think I’ll go hug my wife and say a thank you prayer or ten.

No joke. Separate checking and credit card accounts for the better part of 14 years and never the two shall meet.

ROFF 05-24-2021 06:24 AM

^^^^^^^^
AMEN!!

My wife loves my toys. Keeps me out of the house!

mulcher 05-24-2021 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Mozam (Post 3239460)
You left out 84 percent will vote yes. 38 percent will vote for anything giving to them . :)

So sad isn’t it. They are willing to be valued less then their peers. And work harder for it.

Crockrocket95 05-24-2021 07:33 AM

Hah Zap, im glad my wife doesn't mind if I show up a day late or have to commute out for work. As long as she gets to buy what she wants she is happy. So its a trade off, shoes for work I guess.

ZapBrannigan 05-24-2021 03:07 PM

So back on topic, anybody think there will be a "big announcement" coincident with the 50th anniversary next month? Maybe Anchorage? Or Toronto? Halifax? Montreal? Bermuda? Knoxville?

Or a competitive response to the Breeze flying out of Tampa and Pittsburgh?


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usernamehere 05-24-2021 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan;[url=tel:3239809
3239809]So back on topic, anybody think there will be a "big announcement" coincident with the 50th anniversary next month? Maybe Anchorage? Or Toronto? Halifax? Montreal? Bermuda? Knoxville?

Or a competitive response to the Breeze flying out of Tampa and Pittsburgh?


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Yes, I but not Canada. Unless they’ve figured out how to make US dollars out of Loonies.

CA1900 05-24-2021 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3239809)
So back on topic, anybody think there will be a "big announcement" …

I predict another airport in a city we already go to. Like now we’ll go to MAF *and* MDD. [emoji1787]


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