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Burton78 07-22-2020 06:52 PM

ExTO and VSP numbers
 

Originally Posted by Garryowen1 (Post 3097371)
Do all of the ExTO’s return before any hiring starts up again?


Great question. Unfortunately I don't think anyone here knows the master plan in that regard. My assumption would be no if they truly honor the longevity of requests.

flyguy81 07-22-2020 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Garryowen1 (Post 3097371)
Do all of the ExTO’s return before any hiring starts up again?

I’d assume so

Peacock 07-22-2020 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Garryowen1 (Post 3097371)
Do all of the ExTO’s return before any hiring starts up again?

If I recall correctly that was addressed in the FAQ and the answer was “yes but”. People on ExTO could potentially switch to unpaid leave and military people on ExTO could stay out

KPer 07-23-2020 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 3096023)
I think we will be surprised by how many 55-60 year olds take it.

It appeals to anyone who has made their retirement goal, has a military pension, an SO with a good income, and/or a successful side business. Younger than 55s have the issue of health care as you can only make it last ten years (assuming enough sick time).

It's also attractive to older, but junior FOs who are could believe they are in danger of furlough (I don't think we will furlough but others have a varying assessments). It's an almost safe bet to take $100k/yr over five years and go look for other work than take a chance on a furlough.

ExTO will not save you from furlough. Reverse seniority if it happens. Your number gets called and you get furloughed regardless if you are on ExTO. The pay will stop.

Proximity 07-23-2020 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by KPer (Post 3097562)
ExTO will not save you from furlough. Reverse seniority if it happens. Your number gets called and you get furloughed regardless if you are on ExTO. The pay will stop.

Exactly, we are discussing VSP, which does not have that issue. That is likely why a few very junior FOs took VSP. Or they have a FedEx class date. :)

HulkaBurger 07-23-2020 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Burton78 (Post 3097400)
My assumption would be no if they truly honor the longevity of requests.

No way. They made it a point to emphasize the possibilities of callbacks due to operational requirements.

They absolutely call back the ExTOs before hiring.

THEKERNALKLINK 07-29-2020 11:14 AM

Downgrade to Upgrade
 

Originally Posted by Zman81 (Post 3094128)
What does your friend say about downgrades? I heard a rumor saying the company wants 200-400 downgraded?

I can honestly say this, if it came to downgrading to improve my quality of life over what I'd receive as a very junior Captain, I'd do it in a heart beat! I don't think I would be "very junior" at going on 19 years, but I'm just saying. My priorities and values just are not the same as when I upgraded. I jumped at the 1st opportunity, but then flew with quite a few who turned it down in order to have a better family life. Over time, I began to "get it."

As far as what am I going to do besides make my wife go insane, I'm looking at my mini me's right now and were discussing blanket fort plans.

PilotWombat 08-12-2020 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by HulkaBurger (Post 3096351)
687 VSP
1565 ExTO

I don't suppose you guys have the numbers of extended leaves divided up by length, do you?

flyguy81 08-12-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by PilotWombat (Post 3109141)
I don't suppose you guys have the numbers of extended leaves divided up by length, do you?

All I know is in my base the 6 mo and the 5 yr had close to equal numbers. Pretty much all the 5 yr guys were jr to me. I moved down 7% for Sept.

Squallrider 08-12-2020 05:34 PM

Apparently we are currently over staffed by 1500


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